TALK TO ME!!!!!

i need every body 2 pray 4 my boy webb n hope he pulls thru

Bein from Dallas, i think this kinda music stays in the south…

na its not the souths fault about the new wave of music. Waka flocka hype n thats wat they like. me i like slow houston club music. but maybe ppl are finally ready for that hype throw water on ppl at the club typa music lil jon was tryna prepare us for. But hip hop is missing the younger version of jay z we do want someone who spits about everyday life in the hood like real mellow music that speaks to ur heart.

The problem is the market is flooded. If you have a unique sound, something people will recognize from across the room, then you have a better chance in the business than others.

JD knows talent, it’s just a finding the right groove to spark a landslide effect in a career.

no i dont feel the south is responsible becuz they have artist like t.i outkast young jeezy etc that are very lyrical…i feel every city has its turn to be hot…ny turn comes and goes but more artist is not doing it becuz they love rap they are doing it 4 ringtone money and 4 club hits…

yeah it’s kinda crazy….. i mean there are still people who need that real hip hop tho im young and buy music all the time but …what i call A.B.C. rap is not hot it kind of makes hip hip turn into pop …. so i think if u can not step your ryme game up don’t call urself a rapper call yourself a popper real talk …

I guess people, especially young generations, have lost taste for real music. I remember living in Brazil and dreaming of moving to America just so I could watch MTV. Well, now I am here and look what MTV has become. There’s such an appeal for sex and materialism that feelings and spirituality have totally gone out the window. I look at young kids and all they listen to is music that is not age appropriate for them. It just feels like anyone can make music now, because people (this younger generation) will just listen to anything. Having said that, I really really miss what music used to be. I have developed such an appreciation for musicians and artists that stick to what they know how to do best instead of trying to fit into a “new standard” of music, even if that means that they will not sell nearly as many albums as they could if they changed their style. Thank you JD, for making music survive! I keep listening to Always Be My Baby over and over, and it is so magical the chemistry you and Mariah have, and that was almost 15 years ago! Everything you touch transcends time and generations!
God Bless,
Julio

JD for me personally, it really does baffle me that the kids call waka, soulja, & others REAL HIPHOP..but the problem is..I come from an era when hip hop had MEANING behind it’s lyrics…and the meaning stemmed way past money clothes and hoes…but it seems that there has been a “turn around” and that’s what’s up now. But the same young generation is arguing with me about Janet Jackson not being an ICON, or Beyonce is the best EVER, or that Magic Johnson was one of the greatest pg’s ever, or that Pretty Ricky should be considered one of the best r/b male groups…*crackin up*…but it dawned on me, they just haven’t been exposed to what the requirements are to even be mentioned in the category..which leads me to ask…whose fault is that? I would not diss those fellas for makin they money…new movements are started daily…but those who grew up in hip hop know that the essence of it…has long since EVOLVED TOTALLY TO LEFT FIELD. We all know things CHANGE, but should that be to an extent that you no longer recognize the PRODUCT anymore?

I mean, its garbage….Soulja Boy Waka….there is no artistry in it. I’m not hating on them for getting their money. The way I see it is this…. You can feel when an artist loves music and loves their craft, and you can feel when they are just in it for cash. Everyone wants to make money, but true artists make music because they are musicians, rappers, singers, ect…who love music. Soulja Boy doesnt love music, and have you seen a Waka interview? He doesnt like much of anything. They have no passion for their craft and that lack of passion flows through their music. Hiphop was founded to be a voice to a people that didnt have one and as a form of expression. Jay-Z gets money but he cares about his craft. Look at these new cats…B.O.B, J. Cole, Wale, Kendrick Lamar…these niggas love music, they love rapping…. thats the difference. And no its not the Souths fault 50 Cent, and niggas like Jim Jones are just the same, im not saying they arent talented, but they dont give a fuck about the music and it shows.

YALL ALL LISTEN 2 DA SHIT YALL CRITISIZEN SO STOP DA HATE IF U FEEL THAT WAY START BUYN ALL DA RAPPERS UP NORTH MUZIK N START SHOOTN

WHOSE to say what’s real HIP HOP them niggas dont CARE ! LMFAO

YALL SHOULD JUST BE HAPPY THEY AINT PUMPN PACKS N SHOOTN NIGGAZ THEY GETTN MONEY SO WHAT ITS A SPORT N RITE NOW THE YOUTH GOT IT N THE YOUTH BUY IT SO IT IS WAT IT IS

I feel that 1. The Reason Young Kids In The South Love the Waka, Roscoe Dash, Travis Porter, etc. Is because of the hot beats and the catchy hooks that the songs offer. Which leads me to number 2. The Reason its harder for other outer state crowds to get with this movement is because they are not from here (GA), and furthermore some crowds feel that the artist are not really speaking on real life situations. Just stunting, degrading women, money. I think they more so want to hear the lyricism of the artist (Being A True MC).

DAMN I MADE A POINT HUH?

Well… This is hard one because you can’t really blame the south for what radio does to the youngins or people. I mean if there was some way to get radio to play more than what they’re playing maybe there would be a different likings. Not to “X” out that kind of music but to mix some other stuff in. Once in awhile those songs are good for the parties and clubs but damn! we don’t need to be in the club 24/7. I mean sometimes you want to kick back and listen to some Dondria. Ya know what I mean. Not…AAAAAAH GOOOOOOT BIIIIIIITCHES! I GOT BITCHES….I GOT BITCHES….I GOT BITCHES….SWAG! NIIIIIIGGA! or what was that other one….”This right here…is my…SWAG! So after the swag..what’s next? So I guess I’m saying it’s cool here and there. But for everything to be on that it can get tiresome. I mean I don’t even listen to the radio for that simple fact. Cause if you heard one station you’ve heard them all unless it’s literally a rock/alternative/Jazz/Latin station.

I wouldn’t call the wave ofthe south a trend but more so a stance on the south in hip hop. The south wasn’t recognize as a legitimate sources for great hip hop until later on when acts such as outkast, TI, Wayne (as a solo artist) were recognized by mainstream media. Even great producers such as yourself, B Cox, Johnta Austin, Dallas Austin etc weren’t seen as great SOUTHERN producers, but just great producers; not allowing where you come from to be part of the formula for which your creativity comes from. Being from the south doesn’t stipulate whether or not you are a good artist, but being a great artist from the south allows people to realize that great artistry is lurking beyond the north and the west coast. Roscoe Dash and Soulja Boy are artists who are the young crowd. They haven’t proven themselves to be as the heavy weights such as bun b and pimp c. scarface (the geto boys), and outkast who allowed intellect to interwine with their talent. The South isn’t a movemet/trend, it is a stance against any prejudice that suggest that the south doesn’t stand for Great MUSIC.

I truly believe it is generational. No not all kids born in the 90s have this desire for the state in music but the majority do. NY had Chicken Noodle Soup, Ron Browz, and DJ Webstarr. Now in Cali you have”Based” movement and kids doing the jerk and reject with tight jeans. The common denominator is they are all below 20. Kids of that age are the only ppl buying those records and they don’t buy much. The people who buy records are beyond that age range but not being marketed to at all. When people don’t know a new artist is out then they don’t buy those albums. Monica’s recent success was based off of “Everything to Me” being REAL R&B. What is considered pop isn’t even good pop so why make it just because the numbers show that’s what sells most? Techno/fake 80s pop/r&b appeals to few but it is forcefed and the numbers prove that. I understand that the game is to create similar records to what’s succesful but what is succesful isn’t succesful if you comparing it to other lackluster selling songs/albums.

However I feel that the system is messed up as a whole and doesn’t listen to people on message boards, youtube, blogs, and etc. Sells went down and then the industry blames downloading for that 100% however nobody takes into account that established acts, that are proven to sell, do numbers w/o much promotion. Maxwell didn’t get much spins (video or radio) but he sold more than what has been forced upon fans. Sometimes the majority does want stuff that isn’t quality but more times than not they do.

In the past few years even 70s rock groups put out albums and would debut #1 on billboard like Steely Dan or The Eagles. The only rappers who sell are single artists and established artists like Jay Z, Ludacris, Lil Wayne, TI, Young Jeezy, etc. Along with that reality shows (if the music is good) sells albums. This is because people feel a connection to established artists as well as reality show artists like Making the Band.

Also I would like to say that my post shouldn’t be interpreted as different is better. Often people go the opposite direction for the sake of being different and the music suffers. If music sounds similar it can be good and it can be bad. The same can be said for music that is different.

To put my two sense in it is definately not the South’s fault. There are more and more young people who are coming into the music industry and their counterparts see this and want to be like them, henceforth emulate them. If can be seen in the way they dress, how they speak and there general approach to life.

Young people are impressionable and if they see someone who looks like them they are going to try to imitate and go towards that image and sound of music. I really dont see why though because the music that is being put out my artist under 21 is garbage! But hey that’s what the kids want to hear. They identify with these artist on a personal level. Its like hey he looks like me is my age and is making lots of money withouth being in school, he’s cool! So off they go to get their parents to buy what they see in the video’s or download the music to their ipods!

It is what it is Mayne. People wasn’t feelin Hyphy at all either but kats ate well off it for a minute. It’ll have it’s run. Folks wasn’t fuckin wit Jeezy either but it broke through. Good music will find it’s way out. Same discussion every two years..

I don’t know if it’s the South fault but I will say this : The whole US pop culture has been spiraling down, It use to be a person would blow up because they had exceptional talent. You use to go see people because they did something that the average person couldn’t do. Now it seem people are attractive to people with very little talent. That can do stuff that almost anybody can do. I don’t know if that makes people identify with those artists which is why people feel it. It goes from everything from the reality tv stars to the waka, rosco dash, soulja boy, etc.

Some would call it the dumbing down of America. It’s like what you said about “Everytime I dress up. People say why are you dressed up?” It’s like being mediocre is what’s in man. You said this a while back and caught some shit over it. You said Kim Kardashian is a bigger star than Ciara which is true and kinda proves the point.

Personally, I think it’s a result of a failing education system. When you listen to Soulja , Waka, Gucci, they sound like dudes that have a 6th grade reading level. Like the kids that use to struggle to read out loud in school.

I mean look at the number one song in the country Usher’s OMG. That shit sounds like it was written by a middle schooler.

It’s like the kids don’t have the capacity to follow complex lyrics. It’s like the kids are saying why I got to listen to your shit 10 times to actually know what you said like on an Eminem or Jay-Z track. I got to understand your metaphors and shit. Fuck all that shit. Give me “Wasted” or “I Fuck My Money Up”
I don’t have think with that shit.

The music these days don’t have meaning like it used to and the kids and some adults don’t understand that. To younger people Waka, Soulja Boy, New Boyz and artists like that are Hip Hop to them so when they hear the real deal they get mad and don’t wanna hear it. Us adults don’t make it no better though because we usually have to hear some Waka ourselves to get up in a club and get crunk. I won’t exactly blame it on the south but I would say more artists from northern states (New York, Philly, etc) actually spit real bars. Another reason why you can’t blame the south is because some East coast rappers got they own thing going on as well.

Oh and no I dont feel its the souths Fault, there is nonsense coming for everywhere in my opinion…

Definitely feel what your saying. No matter what kinda of music it is kids will all ways like there era of music. Its new to them and are very influenced by someones image or strikes an emotional connection with them. And when your young an thats all you hear your going to think thats the best thing going right now. I like Waka n Rosco it will be interesting to see if they have longevity in the game compared to an artist like BOB who has a lil more lyrical content and not held down to a certain movement in hip hop and more of his own sound. I bet the older crowd did not understand who KRIS KROSS was when they came out an all there close were on backwards making every body JUMP JUMP. Kids just want something they can vibe to and feel like its there own. We will see how long this movement will last. You had Lil John and the Ying Yang Twins on top of the south movement for a while but were is CRUNK at now. So what will be the next movement from the south after Gucci Waka and OJ Da Juiceman?

I think it goes with the territory..They hated on our gangbangin’ in the west,they hated on the kung fu shit in the east and now they hatin on the lean wit it rock wit….Fuck em they followers anyway..Irb Jankinz

For SmoothIAm: Couldnt have said it better!!! =]

I think the internet is a big part of the reason. I mean lets be real. Part of the reason people don’t buy records is because the music is worst, but the main reason is you can get for free without leaving the chair in your house period.

So, if your not going to buy the records then what incentive is there to put creative music out. These artist want to make are in buisness and if nobody wants to buy a record then why not make a ringtone song. Get a good beat make it catchy and get as much money as you can. Until the people started buying records the music is going to continue to be bad.

Last we choose what we like and the artist make those records for the most part. If we demand better music the artists will have to deliver.

I’m from the Chi and the mane problem is that the midwest is full of followers we got mad talent out here but if it’s not what’s happening in the (ATL) or (NYC) their not playing it..

U ball hard sucka,

nigga eat your heart out

too advanced

super swag

in the Louis pants

Oops that I’m should be in. I should be sleep. Lol

Its has and will always come down to BEATS and HOOKS. What is the difference between a great song and a BREAK through record? This is all I think about all day. I am to the point that I line up all the records that were the break through records for artists just to see what they have in common. Once again it’s beats and hooks.

Cats from up north were always better lyrically while the cats from the south were better on the beats and hooks. What we are seeing today is the same, the best rapper is from up north, while the best production teams are in the south. This is what made, Biggie, JAY-z, and Pac so great, they had lyrics, great production, and simple ass Hooks.

These young cats focus on the Beats and the hooks more then anything, but just like the stakky leg once the hook gets old they are gone!! When someone combines the Beats, Hooks, with great lyrics, you get what’s called RECORD SELLS… I see why the record companies are using 360 contracts on artist now, because that little 6 weeks of radio play, and shows is going to be all the money generated.

JD can’t go back in the past, but this is the reason why I do so hard on him because I know he KNOWS and LOVES Good music. If JD would have put more people on to the point where everyone in Atlanta HAS to come through him to get on, this would not be going on, but I understand the brother was just focused, but sometimes that is were a strong team comes in. Motown had all the great black artists because the artists HAD to go to Barry Gordy, they had no choice. Sometimes you have to duplicate yourself! These guys down here in Atlanta know the formula, get the song hot at crucial and I am going national!!! Who is doing to quality music check? Not the DJ taking the money!!! LOL

Its not the south’s fault. Music is cyclical and the south is getting its shine right now. The thing I’d be worried about is that these acts are novelty acts. Meaning in 5 years, we might not even be able to locate Wacka Flocka, let alone hear one of his songs over the radio. They’re not making classic hip-hop. The same can be said for alot of artists, not just Southern artists. But particularly these artists that JD just mentioned, their music is good for today, but won’t be remembered tomorrow.

Another thing…with the Hip Hop honors fast approaching…has OutKast already been honored? And if not, why in the hell aren’t they being honored this time around!? It IS all about the South right? C’mon son!!!

No!!!! It’s not the South’s fault that this new wave is what’s hot with the kids, ya’ll just make music that feels good to ya’ll & ended up making a movement out of it. I was gonna start to say that it’s the record labels and label heads that decide singles BUT I can’t fault them for making a dollar outta 15 cents (literally) either. Spock made a good point about the beats & hooks being the draw…..the problem is, with artists like WACKA (befitting name) and Soulja Boy, etc… their lyrical content is str8 BOOTY!!! I’m not gonna lie…get a few drinks in me at the club & any 1 of these songs come on, they are the best things to dance to. BUT, on the rare occasion that I put on the radio & hear these songs my instant thought is “WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT!!!”.

You know what I noticed a lot lately, in the clubs, sure DJ’s play these songs but their sets consist mainly of that 80’s & 90’s HIP-HOP & music in general……so what does that tell you???

There are rap artists from the South that are so much better than this but they IMO are being edged out and/or edged in to making this particular style of HIP-HOP. It’s like it’s become OK to just mimick the last guy to have a hit to ensure that you get your radio spins. Without placing “blame” on any area or w/e that is what makes it hard for people outside of the south to digest….that & (at least) in the East coast we tend to be a bunch of music snobs LOL!!!! 🙂

The south Killed Hip Hop Period

1. The artist has one good song on the whole album, it seems like said artist got lucky to have a hit song and then puts together a whole bunch of horrible tracks and calls it an album.

2. 95% of what’s coming out of the south is dance music with horrible lyrics, Then you want to be respected as a rapper. gtf out of here

Music is a reflection of the current generation and landscape of America. These youngin today, don’t really have concerns, they lack general respect for themselves and others and its shown in the music. All they wanna do is be young and dumb. Its astounding to me the level of ignorance that have. Have you read a 13-22 y.o text message lately or ask them to right something for you. They’re STUPID! So therefore this shit music they like shouldn’t be a surprise.

Legitimate adults would never buy a Soulja, Rocso, Wacka cd, but hell yeah it goes hard in the club! Most of us who are 25 and up know whats real. I listen to these cats to get my mind right for going out, but none of them “artist” can ease my mind after a stressful day at work, or set the mood with my lady.

You could never compare these kids to UGK, Scarface, Outkast. But they didn’t grow up recognizing lyricism. Soulja Boy said the first cd he bought was 50 cent, ” Get Rich”. That was only like 7 yrs ago. Its all about getting money. But its not just on them, you can blame the “Record Business”. They want an instant hit. Profit trumps longevity.

I feel how the older folks used to feel when they would say the music had no meaning. I hate Waka, Roscoe, Soulja Boy etc,. For one they can’t rap. Im a fan of lyrics. You know Jay, Nas, Jadakiss. These new niggas is killing the game. Ringtone ass rappers. Bring back real hip hop!!!!

i honestly think it’s garbage and that they’re just speaking ignorance. but teens seem to like it b/c it’s catchy and the beats make you wanna dance and get hype

hell yeah its the souths fault! and im here in atlanta! look fam, we endorese that bs. wacka flocka? roscoe dash? jmoney? come on!!! the industry and pop culture itself feeds off of what we do. period. whatever we do in atlanta the world copies. that is ONE reason lyricism is gone with the exception of a few. but ur rite tho in saying that nobody buys those albums. what was gucci’s numbers? homie is not a star anywhere else besides tha A! same with wacka flocka. if it wasnt for TIP and Rick Ross, the south would look just plain stupid and ignorant. “O LETS DO IT!”… NO HOW BOUT LETS NOT!

#jussayin

Yes, it’s the south’s fault because of rap music and what is leading in today’s generation of music itself, especially the younger ones. What messages are our kids receiving? Which do you think kids and teenagers are listening to more, the Words of Christ, or the words of the Rapper’s rhymes? Think about it, most people from the projects are not home trained/raised in church, that’s why most of them are confused and lost when it comes to life in general, which is a scary because any lost/confused kid would be easily influence by whatever is being approached/accountable to them. Rap music plays a big role in most children’s life, you want to know why? Because most rappers were no bodies and became somebodies which inspired most wannabe rappers to step into their shoes. The worst part is that most rappers now days are influencing others to live life to the fullest and not to give a fuck about the consequences that comes with it. Yeah we only have one life to live, but if we are living the unhealthy life style, than we’re not going to live a full life, like hello!!!!!!!

I’m very frustrated with what hip hop has becoming. Back in the early stages rappers actually put meaning in their songs. Nowadays, it is all about the materialistic, superficial things like girls, clothes, cars, rimes, ice, drugs, sex and money. A few artists give me hope that rap can be resurrected like common, kanye west, chamillionare and few others like them.

Look at it this way, most people who listen to shitty music are either immature, insecure, followers, and egotistical. Did I forget to mentioned that most of them are brain washed too? Naw, I forgot.
Smart people won’t buy into this shit. I’m one of them smart matured people, so I know what’s up.

If you a music fan, you will like any song that have substance/you will like any song that makes you feel good spirtual and emotionally. But if you not a true music fan, you will only listen to what’s hot/cool in the streets. Music is not all about having a catchy tune and a catchy hock. It’s about connecting with the song and understanding the meaning behind the song. You Jermaine and some of you people have to understand that music isn’t about having a hot track that will potentially play at the clubs and ect, it’s about having a good ass song that will potentially become hit. Money shouldn’t be the main thing in the music industry, if that’s the case, than the music isn’t going to fail. Once the person because money hungry, that’s it. The higher the person’s ego is, the shallow the person gets.

If you haven’t notice, the last 6 to 7 years from what I read and heard in entertainment news
media is that rap music has been loosing sales year after year. Compared to regular rock music and country which outsells rap more than three to one as
an average..

Waka Flocka Flame sucks dick! His music is stereotypical garbage. His rhymes fucking suck, oh wait, he’s not even rhyming. None of the rapper’s like Rosco Dush, Waka Flocka Flame, Gucci Mane, Soulja Boy, OJ Da Juiceman are not Rhythm And Poetry artists. They all belong in the trash can. The death of Hip Hop/Rap has OFFICIAL been burried today.

money money money money and mo money.. is going too be the death of humanity.. meaning.. music.. wars.. everything.. everything is based on money.. people kill, steal, sell the souls, tell lies… for money.. be selfish fa money… leave everyone behide.. like all us who not rich fa me.. who cares? no one.. so all this people you love and admire.. is not doing it for the love of music.. but the love of money baby lolz.. i can sit here and laugh about it.. cause i find it funny people dont realize money is the root of all evil.. and going too be the end of this world.. it reminds me of the bible how the rightious (RICH) leaves the poor for dead (humanity) leaving us brainwash.. hopeless.. all those songz being rich.. is for there enjoyment.. not ares.. thats why kidz are not acting like fanz of there music.. there being obbessed.. like they can have that same enjoyment with no talent.. well there doing a good job with brainwashing people and its not with music.. its everywhere.. the news ect.. we jus feed into it.. well i dont.. im a artist mii self.. i do it fa the love of music.. not maoney.. do it for the love of mii fanz ill have for them.. not groupies.. im a hot upcoming female rapper.. very unique http://www.myspace.com/lillezay u can chec me out if ya life.. but i kno how they game is.. and i kno they will see me and turn me into something i dont want too be.

The reason this era of hip hop is the hardest to digest is because the wrong people are said to be representing it. Simplicity in beats is fine can be monumental, if youve got substance in the lyrics you can talk about anything. If your eliquent in what you say you can rhyme to a kick drum and be hot i love the end of “roger that” when wayne says “Its YM we at your neck ..like a violin ..its our world ..we make it spin ..and your the pray ..amen” that shits clever to come up with and his rhymes are consistantly clever like that . These are the definitions of the era not people like Waka their not saying anything so theyll never be recognised globally and it is just a phase.

What’s wrong with hip hop today? Nothing…
I’m in my late 20’s. I grew up on Jay Z, Pac, JD, Biggie and I still DO music work in the now. Nothing is wrong with hip hop! It’s simply ever changing.

People need to understand there’s no right or wrong. There’s no blueprint. You do you! That’s the answer. You do what you believe in and you take chances in life and never stop. You ADAPT!
I love the pac, jay z, biggie era and I love todays era. I LOVE MUSIC! Period. If it stayed the same the game would be boring.

People like JD, Jay Z, LL Cool J are so successful and have long careers because they are able to adapt to the changes. What’s trendy today, is un-cool by tomorrow.

Life is full of possibilities. There are NO boundaries.

All ima say is that its just sad that its guiding our youth now…msuic was made to inspire an emotion not an action…but for some reason it inspires a reaction and majority of the time its a negative one.

ey true dat ma man this post is so right!