WHERE’S THE LUV?

EVERYONE IS ENTITLED 2 THERE OPINION!!!!!!

ONLY 1 THING 2 DO…..TAKE EM BACK 2 THE OL JD DAYS…N BE RELIVENT….AND NOT KEEP UP WIT WHATS RELIVENT…..UPTOPKID.COM

***who this dude nevermind I dont care*** if you in the business of dealing with music folks…he dont know how to network like for real….**rolling eyes**

WELCOME TO MY WORLD JD, AS AN INDIE RECORD LABEL CEO, ALL I HEAR IS “NO”! THIS IS FOR ALL YOU DJs, A&Rs, BLOGGERS, AND MUSIC EXECUTIVES, “YOU ARE NOT A CELEBRITY. YOU ARE NOT FAMOUS! YOU’RE JOB IS TO GET THE MUSIC TO THE MASSES! STOP ACTING LIKE ARTISTS OWE YOU ANYTHING. THE REASON THERE IS SO MUCH GARBAGE MUSIC OUT THERE IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON’T DO YOUR JOB. MAYBE IF YOU STOP PUTTING YOUR HAND OUT, YOUR JUDGEMENT WOULDN’T BE SO MESSED UP!!! LET’S END THE SPECULATION, I’M TALKIN’ TO ALL OF YALL!!!

what up jd i think that it is cool that dude took the time out to call u and explain himself. I think there should be more open dialogues like this instead of people hating an not getting the facts right! much respect 2 u jd keeping doing u! At the end of the day your history speaks for itself!

Thanks! Sharing things like this is why a grown ass man is a Lifer! I agree with the DJ about you being late, but hey that’s the past! I’m sure you won’t miss anything new now because you have Lifers EVERYWHERE, we are your direct link to the streets! This is the EXACT reason our president fought so hard to keep his Blackberry, so he wouldn’t loose touch with everyday people! JD I hope you use that as constructive criticism and get back to work on making some GREAT music! By the way what happen to the SoSo Def sign off the 75/85???

What????????? I was pissed from the beginning…….. FUCK Brian Gaffey!!!!!!!!!! I am so Through with weanie ass crab in a barrell niggas….. I might need to make a NY trip……. Please pluck Brian TAFFY out of this shit. I never really care for that dude, personally. His ear aint that sharp. But he keeps his DL and Metro crowd happy. JD you are a better sport than me, I would put hands on dude. You dont need to explain urself to this weanie. The tone of what he composed was disrespectful in my eyes. Even if he was catching his self, he was so off the deep in. I wish he was in Cali! LOL….. Do you JD! I know u heard it all from these so called Industry katz, and you are still here; Where the hell are they?…………. Crickets huh?………… They at home, sleep……….. LOL………… Much respect to you and all you do.

-Charm

ok@charm the producer…I was thinking like that too at first too**start fanning you down*** lol ** I got instantly piss when I first read it…it dont take much before people start talking out the azz just let it go.

wow… i’ve never even heard of this guy, i wonder if longevity is in his future? i peeped him out by a simple google (should’ve used BING) but my opinion is here’s a dude in the bronx that got inspired by his surroundings, found some loops, learned how to put them together in ableton live and eventually found some cats that could say “im in miami trick” all proper L7 on a disco track… this dude name droppin a group that has had one (uno) song get some air play and the play didnt last long at least where im from… what bothers me is the nerve of some ppl… they get some hype behind them and then feel like they are the wave of the future… there are just some ppl in the music game that you never turn down regardless of how you feel about what they do, JD being one.. if i had a blog and say Kid Rock asked me to drop his album on it, i’d be like hell yea, even if i dont like him there may be someone else that does…. to end, dude gave a grown folk reply and my momma always told me that children need to stay in their place… grow up and make marks in the game gaffey and then try to cherry pick… but even if you reach that point, you still dont dis JD

Your resume speaks for itself. Sounds like he tried to switch it up. He started off saying he had no respect for you. You are entitled to your own opinion, but I can’t think of a DJ in the states over the past 17 years that can honestly say that they moved anything without something being touched by JD. It’s just not possible.

the part that doesnt make sense to me is that he is preachin that he has been knowin whats hot and he supports the hot shit etc etc. but yet as hot as the oceans 7 shit is he aint gonna show it no love? i mean to be real this whole electro based shit has been around as long as house has been. theres house producers that been remixin hip hop tracks over house and eletro style beats!! so to act all high and mightly like it was something new 2 years ago that hes been following ever since just makes him sound and look like a band wagon rider himself. you dont hear these house and electro producers talkin or actin like that. naw they embrace good music period. homeboy makes himself sound foolish. JD you handled your self with class just like any professional would. and personally i think your to kind. i would have took flight on his ass and let him have it.

Man I feel the guy but I don’t think he should have just been like naw I aint doin’ it. If people were worried about being late on shit why the fuck do we sample. Everyone in the industry samples, from beats to lyrics, his point sounded very intelligent but had no real meaning considering his was using “the out of touch or late” excuse. It doesn’t matter in the end because like most of the lifers have said already you got us and the lifers are out there in strong numbers and when you drop Mo Green and Ush new albums people gone be back on yo dick asking to spin da records and when they do just laugh especially at this cat.

Did you even explain to this Brian Gaffey guy that disco/funk is not new. It was a late 70’s, early 80’s thing, he is the one who is actually late. If bringing back something old is new, then he’s ahead of the trend.

I can’t understand why he would say you were late, when that’s how and when you felt those particular songs. Timing is what it is and no one can say when for anyone else. Always and forevermore FLAWLESS

JD!

I respect you even more from just posting the PRE AND POST of this converstion (very Malcolm Gladwell “Tipping Point” and “Blink” of you.
You are a true gentlemen and your ability to ask questions and understand someone’s differences is why you’ve been in the game soo long. I for one believe that Brian should always respect his predecessors he sees that what you are working on is relavent and shame on him for calling you “LATE”. I think there are too many HIPSTER Deejays right now flossing at the turntables and using the stage as a runway. SO WHAT he helped break LMFAO but seriously who cares they are really LMFAO they aren’t TRIBE, ROOTS, FUGEES….they will be in the same cave as the MACARENA by the end of summer. I guess my point is all he had to do was post your CD and give respect it’s not like you some kid from MELROSE hawking an unedited non-composed mixtape your FUCKING JD!!! (my BAD) but daaang :P.
You totally came out like a champ because other non-educated peeps would’ve used all of the forms that they have access too in a negative way that would escalate drama or even create a DISS record. That whole “I AM NOT A ROLE MODEL” statement doesn’t really stand for you there really was a lesson in how you handled this…..KUDOS!

Love and Light,
Jette

check out what I mean by hipster dj’s on these sites these peeps really dont have any touch on what’s next they don’t challenge thought it’s just a trend:

lookatthesefuckinghipsters.com
djsmack.com

i still dont see where he even gets off tellin you that

I got 2 things I didn’t like about that guy’s take on things. 1, he’s a “dj” so why dont he know the difference between official releases and messing around remixes, its obvious JD jumped on those joints cos he liked them n wanted to show his support. 2, JD is one of the few dudes who’s kept his sound CONSISTENT for as long as I can remember. thats why he ain’t fallen off. Listen to the old jagged edge stuff n then the latest Usher stuff, you can tell its JD, just more modern and relevant. I can’t think of one song that he’s done where I’ve thought “aw shit he’s jumped on the bandwagon”, nothing sounds forced. Keep doing ya thing JD, we ain’t mad atcha.

DAMN DUDE WENT HARD!! Man Jd you get much respect from me yo.The shit you have done for the game no one has really did.Most people don’t even know all the things you have accomplished in the game. Shid I really just found out alot of shit by just watching your vids on youtube. I didn’t even know that you wrote most of the hits that used to be in heavy rotation on the radios and still are.YOU WRITE FOR MARIAH CAREY! Thats enough said! Just keep doing you yo..

Wow!!!! On Some real shit playboy…. I feel like you cant do everything at one time! The Where’s the Luv track is relevant to his “past” situation perfectly. The Song is timeless
and it was a Mixtape! Which means a lil something something to tie you over until We bang you in the head! And No Niggas won’t get it unless the are really taking the ride with you! LIFERS! I was there when you got laid off and you was feeling down. There was no better song to express that feeling. And with this LTL MOVEMENT… (YEAH) He’s ahead of all the heads labels!!!! I dont care. He recognized me. When your back is against the wall you are forced to humble yourself and leave it to FAITH and Im at a point in my life where I can only see people who see me.

And if that’s Not LTL I Don’t Know what Chu Call it!!!! So So Def

SIGNED,
The World Famous…

WOW, on one hand i can respect a dude who sticks by his morals and the other hand where’s the respect. That’s the problem, there’s not respect for the people who got us here. JD, if you want to post the Ocean’s on my blog please do. I mean hell I only got 10-20 readers (www.bakerboi.wordpress.com), but hell that’s listeners you didn’t have. LOL. Naw for real no matter how calmly he put it, there’s was no respect there for a person of your status. It’s like what have you done for me lately (no pun intended) that got me looking at the fool like “who are you, man”. hell, if you’re not a internet freak then you will missing oout on have the shit that goes on in the first place and everyone can’t keep up with everything all the time. dude is outta touch becuz if it was outta respect then why go in on what he has been doing, like looky here, lookey at what i’ve been doing. are you in comp wit dude or something, is there a DJ’s side bet jumping off. and just on GP im going to do a write on Ocean’s 7 just becuz i think it ‘s a cool mixtape.

That’s a Grown Man move posting what dude said. Too many people are insecure or narrow-minded to take criticism.

Truthfully I never heard of MGMT or LMFAO until you did your remix, and I pretty much get everything early. I think you helped them blow because you keep finding that new. You are in the nightlife at every big event from city to city, so you come across all the new. I think dude is mad because you stole his shine. That my friend is the definition of a H-A-T-E-R!!

On a side note…….I like the concept of Oceans 7 because renewing the Rat Pack is classic and genius. In my opinion the mixtape could have been better since it had all of the big names. I think I needed just one song to take from it, and be able to consider it a classic mixtape. I didn’t get that from the mixtape, but I will say that you are grinding hard. You have to be the hardest worker in the game right now, and I appreciate that you are taking out the time for the people.

Thanks

This dude brian gaffey sounds like a fucking music snob… who give a fuck if you “discovered” certain groups before they “blew up”.. WTF who cares.. I knew Kevin Garnett was good in high school, do you see me bragging that he is a Hall of Famer now? This guy’s argument for losing respect for JD is garbage. What a clown.

i actually had to read this twice and thankful i did. at first i was like this nigga is mad disrespectful, this why hip hop is the way it is now because there is no respect…and blah blah. but i read it again. lol and now i really see where he is coming from. where trey is coming from when he got at Kelly. glad that you guys are still cool : )

I think everyone else has pretty much summed it up. I dont see hate, I just see a difference in opinion. Many smaller no-name artists hear that same thing every day.

This is pretty crazy and I want to say JD big props for showing us Lifers that you still get criticized every once in awhile… but that still doesn’t stop you from pushing your music forward. I took something different from this argument than most people on here. I want to say that I read your book and it spoke about how you would take a artist and develop him from the ground up; image, rapping skills, what to say etc… You can not catch every act that’s coming up and sometimes even that act may not get you excited, but the thing that trips me out is the fact that this guy hasn’t realized that he hasn’t caught all of the up and coming acts either. You know what this reminds me of, a scene from the Godfather. The DJ is Virgil Sollozzo (the drug dealer that Michael killed along with the cop) and JD you are the Godfather, Sollozzo was coming to offer the Godfather a business prop which was to be in the drug business… Now there was alot of money in that white powder but the Godfather did not want any part of it. Just because you do not want to be apart of the new disco funk doesn’t mean that you need to compromise the way you go about making that next artist into a great one ( we are ready for you Johnta) . Disco Funk or whatever he called it will be around a short while and you build lasting careers… I know you remember how you got to where you are. Dont compromise. I love the book by the way.

JD, you do NOT need this dudes approval. He’s entitled to his opinion and you respectly acknowledged his opinion, but WHO CARES?! Do you REALLY have the time to be tryin’ to break records, when you’re producing for MAJOR artist, doing party promotion, traveling and put on show’s w/ the Ocean’s, not including the other miscellaneous things the lifers don’t know about. Ironicly you were just talking about practicing the on your DJ’ing last episode. But let him have his opinion, cuz “opinions are like asshole’s, EVERYBODY has one”.

By the way cop that LV book you had up…DOPE ART illustrations, etc., etc.

I just can’t agree with him on this JD. You do your thing always, and I feel as if you are in full effect right now. I didn’t use to be a big fan… well, as a younging I DID use to be a big fan of yours but after all the groups you had fell off I just fell back. Of course, I was just a kid then. I’m 4 months older than Bow, so you know how old I am and around what time I’m talking about but NOW… all that love for JD and So So Def has come back. I respect everything you do fam! Much love, fuck them other DJs.

This is DOPE!! Point blank CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM at it’s best and you being the HUMBLE person you are took it the right way, This is why I’m a LIFER cuz anyone who can stay humble for all these years and still practice his craft.. $hit well do I have to say anymore??

I AM A Lifer.. JD i love you shit old new and even if CATS think it late. music is music…. ITs your ears. I also think conversation where two people can talk about the situation like audlts ans have positive outcome is good. Challenge to JD… Show these CATS how we do it in the SOUTH,,, Oceans MXTAPE.. i rock it on the IPOD… I got most of the naval base in VA rocking on you … JD do you cause you area lifer.

DIPLOMATIC APPROACH NOT TAKEN

Dear JD,

This dude’s email pisses me off a lot!!! I think you are doing a great job of maintaining a level head with this guy, but dude is a dumbass!!! He has the fkn nerve to write you a bogus email about how he isn’t going to play your mixtape because you’ve lost touch. On top of that, he tries to make it sound respectable at the same time. And what’s his reasoning??? Well, apparently he discovered LFMAO. Listen to this sh*t head…..he discovered a group that has the musical legitimacy of two circus clowns. If he had an ounce of smart juice in his head, he’d do a little homework to discover that the Ocean’s movement is one of the freshest things going on in the industry right now.

Your rap sheet speaks for itself JD. This idiot should call you back with a formal apology and beg you for the permission to play the mixtape.

You say where’s the luv, I ask where’s the respect?

Sincerely,
Flow Fleezy the Undiplomat

IT’S FUNNY BECUZ IF DUDE WOULD HAVE DID A LIL RESEARCH OR SOMETHING HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT JD HAS ASKED ON GLOBAL14 ((((((((“WHAT’S HOT IN YOUR HOOD?”)))))) …THATS AN ATTEMPT TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME… I DON’T DISAGREE THAT AS A DJ, JD SHOULD TRY TO STAY UP ON EVERYTHING. HOWEVER AS A MAN OF MANY HATS …HE HAS TO STAY RELEVANT IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE HATS NOT JUST DJING. IF JD WANTS MORE THAN JUST PPL IN ATL TO HEAR HIS ARTISTS HE DOESN’T SAY OH WELL ILL JUST PUT IT OUT IN ATL AND HOPE THEY LIKE IT EVERYWHERE. HE RELIES ON EVERY MEDIUM POSSIBLE… TO ME HE IS RELEVANT. I WATCH EVERY LIVING THE LIFE VIDEO AND I HIT UP GLOBAL 14 EVERYDAY. SO IF PPL WANTED THEIR MUSIC PLAYED BY JD OR ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THEIR OWN HOOD I FEEL THE INTERNET IN ITSELF IS MAKING THEM HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ACCESS TO PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN BUT ITS UP TO THEM TO GET IT HEARD… HE’S ONE MAN AND IT’S MILLIONS OF ARTISTS.

well u do have a piont there too as well but do not worry about u have put out alot of good music out there u are never too later for anything men just go to name few ppl that u help out over the year usher nelly an alot more but anyway do not let anyone bring u down he not pay u to do anything need to get his own life

The dude has his opinion true but what jd is saying is, he is breaking records and looking for new acts. ! person cant discover and break 100 percent of the acts! network and help each other and stop sucking your own d!ck! jd is breaking fashion now he is a busy man! haha. good blog good video cant wait for part 2. we’ll see how far that disco funk goes when he aint doing his job sending jd the records. hahaha the irony.

Hey JD I am an up and coming promoter out here in Atlanta and I would love to do a mixtape party with you man if youd be open to new venues and promoters. I may not be one of those flashy guys doing their thing in downtown atlanta but I mean i have a genuine love for the dj craft and art so thats what my party is focused around, get at me if this interests u at all

This dude must be nutz! He taun bout ppl hopping on ol stuff? what does he think a mixtape is? That dude is an idiot. Plus to disrespect JD like that… a nigga that’s been paying his dues in the game for years beefo that other cat was even a thought to society. All I’m saying is sometimes its better for niggas to just hold there tongue. You think if Dr. Dre or Timbo or JD orTeddy Riley or Neptunes would holla at me, I would start trippin? H-NAH!!! I would just be honored that them cats respected me and my work enough to even get at me. For real a chance to chat with a Hall of Famer in the Music game is priceless! Even if you don’t walk away with a deal.. You still walk away with knowledge. And if it was Suge Knight even if you don’t walk away with a deal….. At least you Walk away!! lol

JD it seems like this is just another example of NY arrogance gone awry. I just had another debate on youtube about this ridiculous behavior of New York residents who think they’re the “supreme authority” on music. On there, they were talking about how the music really sucks and they don’t understand why “real hip hop” isn’t selling. This was my response:

As long as the reality remains that any artist not from New York isn’t “real hip hop” and is getting disrespected because he doesn’t say “son” and claim some borough or island throughout his music or use really low-key beats with no funk, soul, gospel, or rock feel to it,the people are going to continue to ride with other artists. Have you realized that people want a variety and hate monopolies? That’s what New York was trying to do for so long…hold a monopoly on the game. They’ve had something to say about every rap/hip hop movementoutside of New York.

They made comments about the west coast taking their share. They were dissing 2Pac on the comments section I was on although that man had some serious content before he got into the gangsta madness – go back and listen to 2pacalypse Now (the album), Changes, and Me Against the World (album). They took issue with or simply ignored the artists from the South – Outkast, Goodie Mob, and Geto Boyz.

They did the same thing to the Chicago/Midwest movement. Bone: Thugs-N-Harmony, Do or Die, Twista…got no love. Just like Nas, Jadakiss, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Pharoah Monche, some of Wu-Tang, Immortal Technique, etc have something to say, so do others from different regions. The New York DJs forgot that their job is to bring hot music to the radio/masses and tried to block Nelly from bringing the St. Louis style of rap to the music world. But he found a way and sold 9 million albums. This isn’t the only time the people showed that they were ready for something different. It wasn’t even the first time.

NWA, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Missy Elliot and Timbaland, just about anything outside of NY…time and time again, the audience showed they wanted to hear good music that had motley sounds. They wanted something fresh. Of the limited list of rappers that have diamond albums, the only New York rapper is B.I.G. and the album is “Life After Death”. Outkast, Left Eye (through TLC), and Eminem are all on there – two acts from the south and one from the Midwest.

Even after these artists prove their lyrical ability & veracity and impeccable sense of rhythm, they’re still held to a different standard than the artists from New York.

As talented as T.I. is, how much props does he really get from them? They love Jay-Z because he memorizes his rhymes. I like Jay as well. The Black Album was that ish! But, what about T.I.’s Trap Muzik? That album was classic – not to mention his displayed prowess on King, Urban Legend, TI vs. TIP, and the recently colossal Paper Trail. He’s shown a versatility that would NEVER be ignored if he was from Brooklyn or the Bronx or Staten Island or whatever.

I have albums from every rapper I’ve listed here. People from different parts of the country can enjoy music that isn’t just from where they’re from. NewYork residents just have no clue how to do that. It trips me out because they’ll complain about T-Pain, but listen to Ron Brownz. They love Cam’ron/Jim Jones rap but clown the work of Lil Wayne. They can rock with the darkness of DMX but can’t understand why people like Scarface. Lil Wayne recycles one line and he’s a biter; Jay-Z recites damn near a whole verse and he’s just paying respect. They hate “crank that” but love “the chicken noodle soup”…such hypocrisy! I can’t stand Soulja Boy because he sucks(but I understand he has his place) not because he’s from the south…or (even more pathetic), just not from New York.

Hey JD,

Just saw the LTL “Message to the industry” episode. And I have to say that I was actually suprised to hear what they play in clubs out in ATL… Call me small minded or what not but seriously… I thought that there were just hiphop/rnb clubs and electric/techno clubs seperatly.

I live in Rotterdam, Holland and I’m so happy that the DJs over here play different genres all mixed up (at times f*ucked up, but hey…). When we go out to clubs we hear songs from M.I.A, JUSTICE to Jay-Z, Kanye, Soulja Boy, R KELLY, Montel Jordan and all the way to (latin)house music. That’s why I gotsta give it op to Dutch DJs like Chuckie and Superior for holding it down for us.

Seriously JD, u have to come to Rotterdam or Amsterdam!! Either way.. it’s goin down.

Much luv,

Angie

Damn Chistel…..you said that! JD thanks for posting this, it was one of the maturist (sp) things I’ve seen from the industry in a while. Also, I think you needed it! And just my opinion, you kinda came at him wrong in your initial question…you dropped your name and then told the dude you needed him to put the mixtape on his blog, maybe you could’ve said, “yo, do mind putting my mixtape or Will you please support me and put my mixtape…” Now, with that said, I have met you several times and you’ve always been down to earth and cool. I think it all ended well and we all learned something from the interaction. Communication is mutha….it works!

Sounds like musical elitism to me. But, how can you be elitist towards one of music’s elite? I don’t get it. Great illustration of the song “Where is the Love” . This is why I took issue with a post that you had stating that the youth are the future and they should be able to dictate the future of music. That’s true to a great extent, but they MUST remember to pay homage to the greats that came before them. Especially those who have done it and are still doing the way that you have. I know that I follow your progression because it is consist, quality work. Dosen’t really matter whether the it’s the newest thing are not. As long as it stands the test of time. And you’ve shown and proved time and again. Dude is entitled to his opinion, though. And it’s good that y’all got y’all points across to one another. But damn, lilke you said “Where is the Love”!!!

To Minnie – I’m glad you got a chuckle out of intelligent and valid discussion. My questions to you are: 1) What constitutes “good Hip-hop”? and 2) Who generates and approves this criteria? Is it the global fans? Record sales? Your very intimation that since the music we refer to as hip-hop has its most recent origins in New York that “[sic] it only right” that “[sic] alot of good Hip-hop comes from NY” is the basis for my argument.

It comes from there… so your artists are better because it sounds they way you all like it? That’s like saying that best computers have all come from one company since the developement of the first electric computer back in the mid 20th century (1940-1945). It’s like saying that because Alpha Phi Alphi is the first recognized black fraternity (1906) that no other fraternity has helped to build the credibility, reputation, solidarity among brothers, and distinguished nature of the educated black man. You’re making it sound as if a plethora of good hip-hop hasn’t come from other regions as well. Most of it people would never get to here if it were up to NY DJs.

You say there’s competition within the boroughs as well. Besides KRS-One going at MC Shan for saying the hip-hop started in Queensbridge, I’ve never heard an NY artist saying “hip-hop belongs to Brooklyn/Staten Island/The Bronx/Queens/Manhattan”; it’s always been the bs of “hip-hop belongs to NY”. That’s the point of my entire post.

“Respect is given where it is due, as is shown by record sales and longevity.” Okay, I can respect that. But, are we accounting for the increase in illegal file-sharing and buying from the guy on the corner? Otherwise, it’s giving an unfair advantage to those who didn’t have to deal with this nearly as much. Moreover, how much weight is given to each factor? Is it half and half? 25% sales and 75% longevity? 60% sales and 40% longevity? What is it?

Let’s see…Ludacris has been famous since 2000 (9 years) and sold 15 million in the states, 20 million world-wide. Where’s his respect as a “good hip-hop” artist? Jay-Z, by comparison, 13 years, 22.8 million in the states and Nas – 15 years, 12 million with 10 albums (including the platinum Firm album). Compare again to KRS-One who sold 2 million in 22 years.

Nelly – 9 years, 22.5 million in the US. Nellyville went gold or platinum in 35 countries.

T.I. – 8 years, platinum on every album with the exception of “I’m Serious”…that’s 5 platinum albums in 8 years.

Big Boi (from OutKast) – 15 years, 25 million in the U.S. Everyone gives Andre 3K his props. But, why is Antwan ignored?

Trick Daddy – 12 years, 3 million …before you laugh at the numbers, Common has sold 3 millions in about 17 years.

you and I both think he sucks…but here he comes:

Cam’ron – 11 years, 3 million – once again, Common – 17 years, 3 million…you picked this criteria.

Ice Cube – 22 years, 11 million solo, 4 million with NWA, 2.4 million with westside connection (17.4 million total)

Lil Wayne – 10 years, 7.5 million in the US. Carter III – platinum in a week

Bow Wow – 9 years, 5 million …. Compare to Talib Kweli – 9 years, 2-3 million or Mos Def who has been out since 1998 and has released 7 albums but has only 1, count it, ONE gold album.

LL Cool J (I don’t think he gets the respect he deserves) – 24 years, 12.8 million albums

8Ball & MJG – 16 years, 5.5 million – out about the same time as Common and sold more with probably little-to-no buyers in NY

Three-6-Mafia – 15 years, 6.8 million, 6 gold or platinum albums. Same argument for them as the previous.

Lil Jon & the Eastside Boyz – 12 years, 4.5 million. (not even talking about Jon as a producer).
Is Lil Jon MY definition of hip-hop…no! but MY definition is MY definition. To each his/her own, but NY fans think they can set the definition for everyone else just because the most recent origins lie in NY.

Left Eye – TLC… 10 years prior through her death…an astounding 22 million records, a diamond album in CrazySexyCool…yet, i can’t recall ever seeing her mentioned on any MC list.

In my opinion, all of these people shouldn’t be compared because they aren’t the same type of artists. But that’s the thing about hip-hop, there has always been the party music, the political music, the underground, the mainstream, the rough, and the smooth. Who are we to try to contain an artform?

i guess its hard 4 me because i thought we the consumers had a bigger say in what is relevant or not. its a dj’s job 2 pump out the music so that we can be the judge. that is probably why i hear the same shit on the radio all the time cause djs r only playing what they like instead of putting all the music out there and seeing what the public thinks. it feels like we r being forced 2 only enjoy music that djs like instead of letting us get the feel 4 new, different and familiar shit thats being recorded. thats probably y i dont listen 2 the radio that much. djs have way 2 much power these days. but i guess everything has its purpose.

WHERES THE LUV

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I totally agree with you Dwestcoast! That’s exactly what I was saying…people often times listen to the music that’s popular in the region they live in. That doesn’t mean we aren’t open to new things…it’s just that’s the way it is sometimes…not saying it’s right…but that’s the way it is sometimes.

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