WHAT HAPPENED TO REAL SONGS???
2 DAYS AGO ME AND B COX WERE TALKIN ABOUT R&B AND HOW THE ARTIST TODAY ARE SO STREET FROM THE LYRICS TO THE LOOKS. SO IT MADE ME ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO REAL SONGS? WHY ARE THERE MORE R&B ARTIST SAYING THE SAME THING AS THE RAPPERS INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT TENDER RONI, HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE, PIECE OF MY LOVE , FOREVER MY LADY, CRY FOR YOU, WHAT ABOUT US, LETS GET MARRIED ECT…… I COULD GO ON AND ON. WHEN DID THE R&B ARTIST GET FOOLED TO BELIEVE THAT YALL WANNA HEAR THEM CURSE AT THE CROWD, HOLD THEY DICK THE WHOLE SONG, LOOK LIKE RAPPERS 100 PERCENT AND SING ABOUT SHIT THAT’S UNROMANTIC. DID JODECI DO THIS ? I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE BEGINNING BUT WHAT’S FUCKED UP ABOUT IT IS, THAT’S NOT WHAT JODECI WAS. JODECI WAS EVERYTHING PACKAGE INTO 1 THAT’S WHY WE LOVE THEM AND STILL LISTEN TO THERE MUSIC TODAY. BUT SOME WHERE IN BETWEEN ALL THE LEATHER PANTS, JACKETS AND TATTOOS NIGGAS MISSED WHAT THEY WAS SAYING; NIGGAS MEANING UPCOMING ARTIST. OUR TALK GOT DEEPER AND I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ARTIST OF TODAY ARE CONFUSED WITH TOO MUCH TOUGH GUY SHIT, IF YOU LOOK LIKE A THUG THEN YOUR MUSIC SHOULD REFLECT SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RAPPERS HAVE DIFFERENT LOOKS THAN THERE MUSIC. 50 CENT, JAY-Z, 2 PAC AND BIGGIE LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THE SHIT THEY SAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID I KNOW ITS ALOT OF UP AND COMING ARTIST THAT READ THIS BLOG SO MY ADVISE TO YOU IF YOU DO R&B IS KEEP THE 2 SEPARATE AND KNOW THAT SEPARATION IS GOOD.
I think that there are artists that have “Real” R&B songs, but that’s not what the market seems to be checkin for so it doesn’t get much play.It seems like nowadays if an artist doesn’t put out a club banger 1st and foremost then they practically go unheard, and with that said they probably feel that they have to look more street (because lookin like a gentleman doesn’t fit that vibe).
How many Love Songs do u hear up in the club??????????? U look at everybody in the R&B & Hip-Hop genre’s and notice that if their shit ain’t gettin heavy club play, then they aren’t movin shit….that’s why real R&B ain’t sellin.
I agree 110%. As a true R&B fan I find myself listening mostly to 90′s R&B (which I think was by far one of the best decades ever for R&B). I was driving on a road trip from Houston to Atlanta last week and as I was listening to the radio, I found myself thinking why aren’t there any slow songs on the radio anymore? What happened to the love ballads? Or hell even the babymaking music? Everything is club music now. I like to dance to, but I really miss the days when R&B wasn’t hip hop.
Oh well, sticking it the old music in my Ipod until someone decides to bring it back.
whatup jd. i didnt bother reading all the comments, shitd take too long. so i dont know if someone has already said what im gonna say. but i hope your ead my comment. cause good r’n'b is still out there. but its just not mainstream. its not all over itunes for ppl to buy, all over youtube. if you want real good r’n'b go djweetart.com. peep that shit. shes australian just like me. and she knows good music. hell you can get trey songz i need a girl song. and peep those ghostt boys, the songs selfish and foolish are the best ive heard in a long time. PEACE
JD! Hold my mule, I’m about to shout! U cud not have hit that nail on tha head. I’m 25 (soon ro be 26 n april) and hate a lot of the music that’s out 2day. Its just stoopid and a freakn mess. Like seriously. I men yeah I have my days when I turn on my lil kim, JE, llcoolj etc. But that crap that’s out now is just that. Crap! Ill take janet, the emotions and luther any day…
I agree with you. I love to listen to what is call throwback music, music I grew up listening too .On my myspace page I like to put my throwbacks (Jodeci, Mint Condition, Shai, H-Town, SWV, Xscape, Changing Faces and my oldies Smokie Robinson, The O’Jays, Blue Magic, Linda Jones, Mr. Luther Vandross, Teddddddddddy, The Stylistics,The Dells-lol “Stay in my corner ” etc, eventhough most of the oldies song was loooooooong but I understand why because it gave them the chance to rubba dube, express themselves, and hold each other close.). They dont even really slow dance anymore (“Hey Mr DJ Why dont you slow this party down…..slowjam”) and thats when you really can touch a person that you wanna touch without being disrespectful (like the oldfolks call it dry f???? with class lol).Please bring those type of music back.
P.S. Romance the mind first before you bump and grind
Thanks for posting JD. I am glad for your honesty. All I can say I know good music when I hear it. There are a lot of songs that have great beats, but the lyrics killed it, and I mean badly.
It’s not just these genres, rock is not the same as well. Some of the bands sound alike. I love rock ballads. Does any remember Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody? I don’t think you find rock bands who do ballads.
Don’t forget After 7′s ‘Till U do me right’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLZt_PnocAY
they definitely need to get on the level of songs like “All My Life” that song is beautiful ~JP…LIFER
JD, you definitely picked a topic close to my heart. Have you heard Babyface’s new song about love songs? Anyhoo, I don’t even listen to the radio anymore. You can’t tell me you want to stab, cut, hit, nor pound on me and expect to make it rain. I bruise easily and those terms inflict pain yet too many women especially young ones cream their thongs when some thugged out rapper or singer says them. They’re too distracted by the tattoos and muscles. I like them too but how you speak/sing to me is even sexier. We’ve lowered our standards as women and as a people in general trying to keep it hood, keep it “real”. And it’s young women that keep these hard ass songs in heavy rotation. Listen to who’s blowing up the request line. Young Women. There wouldn’t be videos like Tip Drill (sorry JD) if WOMEN decided to keep their damn clothes on and use their asses to sit on and not for ATM deposits. Once Strip club culture and porn became more mainstream in music and videos, love was forgotten. Bend over ‘ho show me whatcha working with and we did.
Secondly, we’ve allowed everyone to define for us what real R & B music is and we created it! There really isn’t Neo Soul its just Neo Artist aka new artist. Back in the day, Jodeci had just enough thug appeal to make us damn near forget about Boys II Men. But lyrically them church boys from Charlotte, NC, were on point with expressing true love…Those Al B. Sure produced tracks, Forever My Lady, Cry For You, Come and Talk To Me are classics…And then their wedding song, All My Life, was a major hit. Fast forward to Maxwell, Jaheim’s “Just in Case”, Robin Thicke, and Prince always knew the deal. Seduction, sex, and love all played together in his music. Now dudes don’t treasure the gift of a woman’s body.
But somehow with so much going on culturally the music changed. Rap traded its soul for bling, , R&B became infused with Hip Hop lyrics that often didn’t complement the song, and the theme of love got lost in the shuffle unless a young female artist was whining about losing it. So it’s not just the labels, the DJs, the radio programmers, it’s ALL of us.
Where the culture goes, the music will follow. Check our history. So where is the love? Go back and pull out your Robert Flack and Donny Hathaway ’45 and you might find the answer.
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how about Jd never type in all caps again… that shit was like playing concentration.
but i agree. wholeheartedly. yeah pretty much u said it all. it is what it is.
JD, I agree with you 1000%.
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LMAO!! @ mimi’s comment
ill have to agree with u jd and ur right on the mark Ellenoir1.
I think a lot of what is happening in rap is somehow affecting rnb…because like JD was saying about the new rap generation not being able to see the kings of hip hop doing they thing…most up and coming people don’t pay homage to the generations that made it possible for them newcomers to get on in the first place…..bottom line the old saying is true…..u can’t know where u going, if you don’t know where you bin..
First, the music biz is jus that….business. The artist that are out now and that are trying to be heard are not signed to their own label for the most part so in a way its not completely their fault bc other people are in charge of their careers so to speak. Also, most artist don’t write their own songs and even if they did its ultimately up to the record company what’s released or put on the cd (unless the artists are legendary or atleast have a few good selling albums. And second, I feel that its a new era/generation and the generation now have been raised different. Male rnb artists don’t have real “men” as role models are therefore don’t really no how to express feelings bc to them being a man is about being hard and fuckin a different chick everynight. So, until song writers, record labels, and artists realize that the same shit is on the radio daily then all we have are the classics!
The male R&B game has been in a lyrical recession for quite some time now.
u dead right JD . …tattoos, sneakers, jeans…… u see more rappers wearing suits than R&b singers.
i think this may have stemmed from when the singer feat. rapper songs took over. its all about sales and capturing that wannabe type audience.
i mean we got kids out here probably fucking to pretty ricky. i say its insecure boy meets insecure girl. the more u disrespect her the more she’s gonna love u and the cooler u look to other guys and girls w/ low self esteem. they have nothing else to offer or admire. and they love that shit. so cha ching. i mean its one thing too sing about wanting to making love to some girl that makes u forget ur name and fucking the dog shit outta some pretty/insecure /half drunk chic with a big ass that u met in the club. so after all the unwanted calls, busted windows, slashed tires and trips to the free clinic… the good music will take over again. but when?. i mean like back in the day when everbody out was putting out good shit. they spending too mich time singing to dem hoes ’cause there easy. dats dat wannabe shit not the grown man shit. guys don’t pour their hearts out anymore. even jodeci did that.u know first its gonna be the beat then the lyrics will get u but also his voice has to captivate me. yeah i need a new R&B man.
i need that …
Can we
climb the mountain/top screamin’ ecstasy
We so high up on this love/we reach the peak
We ain’t never coming down/ baby
keep makin that sound …
thats what i’m talking about baby!
lol @ mimi
I think alot of too has to do with how our society feels about sex. We have become a sex saturated society, from commercials to billboards to songs to tv. And so it reflects in our music. Like love doens’t matter anymore. That it is just about what feels good and how quick you can get it. Like a drug. So the romance is gone, and the commitment is gone, and the finesse is gone. And when you speak on love and romance it makes people also remember that with that comes the potential of being hurt and so with everything else that we are dealing with as people we shy away from anything that might cause more pain, work, or energy…I.E. Love, Romance, Commitment, etc. And we take the easy route…your sexy, your fine, let’s have sex.
Jodeci and that generation of singers talked about sex…BUT it was often protrayed in a monogamus light. Forever my lady, Anniversary by Toni, Tony, Tone, Boys to Men, etc.
And slowly rap creeped in and RB was pushed back, because Rap was saying something we hadn’t heard, but with that came alot of misguided views on sex and love because most of those cats didn’t have an example of how a man should love on a woman and vice versa. ANd it became SEX, SEX, Violence, and MONEY, and Sex, and MOney, you get the picture.
This is why R&B singers like Anthony Hamilton, Raheem DeVaughn, J. Holiday, Eric Benet and Johnta are important. They sing about more than just the sex of the relationship, but the love of it, the commitment of it, the working through it part….Can’t Let Go by Anthony Hamilton, Woman and Mo Better by Raheem Devaughn, Pimp in Me and I Know Lovel by J. Holiday, Joy by Johnta…all of these songs mention the sexual part but in the context of the love and romance of the relationship.
Here’s the problem though…MOst of these songs don’t get spin s on the radio and the ones that do are only on the so called mature adult stations. So this generation never gets to hear them UNLESS Momma or Auntie or Daddy are playing them….
How do we change that JD?
JUst my $.25…LOL!
PS WHAT THE HECK HAPPEN TO MAXWELL? Somebody go find him!
Good music is still out there. The labels just need to look for it. Google “LeVar Thomas”
I am a young dude, 25 to be exact, but I have an old soul. I come from an era where people love gangsta R&B artists (if that’s what you wanna call them) but no one appreciates real singing or real soul music anymore. JD I think you and B Cox hit the nail on the head, when listening to R&B music, we don’t want to hear the same subject matter that the rappers are talking about. Artists like Anthony Hamilton, Raheem DeVaughn, Johnta, and a few others are essential because they keep the whole perspective of what R&B is supposed to be about. Its about story telling but story telling that allows for the listener to feel it in their souls. I guess I piggy back this off of another comment that you made JD, in order for R&B singers to be relevant to me, they have to know of the artists that paved the way, like the Sam Cookes, the Al Greens, and even further back, the Etta James, the Ella Fitzgeralds, the Sammy Davis Jr. They have to understand what they did so that they can build on that and move forward. Everyone wants to be in the game to get the dollar, and that’s good, but the essence of R&B has to be remembered. Just my two cents. Take Care
Tagore57 and ellenoir1 preach!!! lmao@nanaberri saying more rappers are wearing suits than R&B singers! I was thinking about this last night on the way home and for the most part, I stopped buying music a while ago except for a few new artists here and there…I just wasn’t inspired by a lot of the new stuff on the radio. Like many of you mentioned, they don’t play the good stuff on the radio and depending on where you live, some artists get no love on the radio at all. It’s very sad but after reading many of your comments, I was inspired to purchase some music last night…there are still a few good ones out there but you can’t look to radio or the mainstream media to hear any of the good stuff…
YEA I AGREE 100 PERCENT, THERE WAS A POINT WHEN R.KELLY WAS GOING DOWN DAT CKUFD UP ROAD TOO BUT DAT DUDE KNOWS HOW TO BOUNCE BACK TO THAT REAL R N B, GOT RESPECT FOR HIM ..the only rnb group whom i think is still holding it down is JAGGED EDGE them niggaz luk nothing like da shit they say… man how i miss 1990′s r n b i’m talkn SWV “WEAK” AALIYAH “BACK AND FORTH” MJB “REAL LOVE” TLC “CREEP” SHIT HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN!!!!! oh yea and JOE still got it on lock down. J.D THANX FOR POSTING THIS CAUSE I REALLY THOT SOME PRODUCERS DON’T EVEN DISCUSS SUCH THINGS ANYMORE
Okay I’m gonna try to put this in a way that i don’t think anyone else has yet. And If you have I’m sorry maybe i shoulda read all of the post instead of just a few… But it’s like this… There are some songs out that we as artist, producers, consumers, (or whatever else you wanna call yourself) can rock to such as Sammie’s New Song “BodyRock” or Jarvis’ new song “She Da Best” or even Lloyds new one “I can’t Wait” but there are few to no singers making music that gonna out stand their current album and that’s problem. What I think is missing is a sense of Longevity we as artist are only thinking about the here and now and not if people are gonna go back to that song and be like “Oh wow that’s my Jam” and know every word.
Like if you go back to Marvin Gaye when he sings “Let’s Get It On” he’s singing about a love between 2 people and not just having sex which is what most songs are talking about today. Like one of the other comments Anthony Hamilton, Raheem Devaughn, Musiq Soulchild, Ginuwine, Eric Benet, all think of song that have something to say some of the new artist (not necessarily any of the one’s i’m talking about above) only have a couple things to say “hey your cute”, “Hey let have sex” and that’s all well and good but you gotta have something that is gonna outstand your career…
Let’s Go back to Gerald Levert, Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross, these three artist are unfortunatley dead and gone but i bet you can play one of there songs and it will explain or help explain what you are going through today and they were written, performed, already gotten royalties from, possibly still getting royalties from and it describes what you are going through today. When Anthony Hamilton sings “I can’t Let you Go” it’s saying I need to have you in my life, no matter what’s going on… If i lose my money, house, cars, friends… I still gotta have you… When Musiq Soulchild sings “Love Of My Life” he sings about losing cars, body parts and still living but if he loses the love of his life he can’t live that’s deep that’s the kind of love that most people strive for but never find…
So you ask “What Happend To Real Songs” My answer is that the artist lost that idea of being around for a long time and having fans that know every word to their songs even after they get out of music or unfortunatly die… But that’s just my 2 cents…
Oh and sorry if i sounded like i was on a couple different pages…
JD, Maybe you could try and organize a show that would be a forum true R&B artists to be heard. Like a Gentleman’s tour? You know for the ladies…An event where folks can dress up and go out for an evening of romance with various artists. I’m sure it’s easier said than done…just an idea. It doesn’t have to be in a huge venue either. Something small and intimate would be nice. What do you think?
Here is the bottom line. Male R&B artist have to give an illusion to the female public that they can be theirs. That is why Usher messed up coming out with his marriage. Those girls that looked at him as their boyfriend or future husband no longer see him like that. Chris Brown messed with his core audience, how many guys you know are rushing out to get a Chris Brown Album.
For the young people, they need a who new face for R&B, but if JD slept on Ludacris and so many other talented people in Atlanta do you think he will be the one to find the new one? He might, if someone has their BDS report looking good!! I can’t wait to see what So So Def does with Deondra. All them other artist that JD signed to Def Jam are looking crazy right now!! SPOCK
Shout out to Bonecrusher, I was at V-103 with him yesterday… He keeps is real!!
I agree with you. I love to listen to what is call throwback music, music I grew up listening too .(Jodeci, Mint Condition, Shai, H-Town, SWV, Xscape, Changing Faces and my oldies Smokie Robinson, The O’Jays, Blue Magic, Linda Jones, Mr. Luther Vandross, Teddddddddddy, The Stylistics,The Dells-lol “Stay in my corner ” etc, eventhough most of the oldies song was loooooooong but it gave them the chance to rubba dube, express themselves, and hold each other close.). ( Romance the mind first before you bump and grind).Slow dancing dont really occur in the clubs or at general parties anymore(“Hey Mr DJ Why dont you slow this party down…..slowdance”) and thats when you really can touch a person that you wanna touch without being disrespectful (like the oldfolks call it dry f???? with class lol). However there are some music thats out now that are good like the ol days but it does not get alot of exposure, and alot of politics with that consisting of the labels, the artist themselves and the public. Therefore please try to bring back the oldies and throwback type of music, back.
I agree. There is no romance, chivalry, courting, and love in music anymore. There’s no more “baby-making” music. Most artists don’t pour their hearts out. It’s all about the one night stands, cheating, clubbing, alcohol, blinging, and stripping. I don’t even listen to the radio any more. We make our own music in the lab and I listen to that. Hip Hop isn’t the only thing dead, MUSIC IS DEAD!!! It’s rare now a days to find good music. After a while you get tired of listening to the same song over and over. I’M OVER IT!
Sorry…
~Chynna~
Yeah, I loved the R&B from the 90′s… R&B today, sounds the same… But I know and hope for better music to come, because there are lots of “unknown” artist out there. Like a paint brush is to a canvas, so are words to a song. They work hand in hand. Artist need to find a way to grab their audience, and use what they go through everyday, as a story. Enough of the blah blah blah’s that we hear on the radio everyday. Bring back the real music! I’m talking about the kind of music you listen to all day and everyday… and never gets old because there is a story in that song that just touches your soul. If only people would just *be themselves* and not adjust to what everyone else likes (which is crap), then maybe songs will have meaning and more people will relate to it. I mean, how many times do I hear songs about cars, money, and the other blah blah blah’s aka same topics? Even the R&B music sounds the same today, but I wont go there. I know there is an artist out there somewhere, that can breathe life back into R&B. I don’t think R&B is dead today, I think the words in a lot of songs have no meaning (its just a nice beat, with no story). Words can be powerful, but until we find someone who isn’t afraid to be who they are, then music will be like a blank tape that sounds the same every time you play it. In other words, music will die, and we will have to listen to BLAH BLAH BLAH’s until someone comes and brings back “the good stuff” in R&B music.
The real love longs…. In order for us to have some real love longs peoples view on love must change. It’s viewed very differently now and that’s mainly because it seems that ROMANCE has died. To me the romance is the essence of a real love song. Dudes don’t know what it is to romance their lady anymore. It’s all about trying to get it in then what!!! What happened to knocking her off her feet making her feel like a woman. ROMANCE…. theres none. I’m not trying to knock your boy….JOHNTA. Look how you dudes talk about women. If a chick have a couple of drinks ON YOUR DIME. You expect what!!! Come on you really know what’s up… When brothas start feelin that love and start romancing their women then the real love ballads will start to come because it would be effortless to write. Right now all they could write about is the skeeze they picked at the club or bar last night and took to the tellie.
Brothas I’m not downing you because my sistas make it too easy. You guys can only do to us what we allow. So when my sistas stop being so open, relax , and get to know a brotha then maybe we can get to see that other side of a brotha. Then maybe that element of courting, dating, romancing would find its way back to our ears.
**Missy B**
Ladies would LUV some romanctic R&B ,JD I think some artist and men feel that showing sensitivity is a sign of weakness its like protray hard at all times but women luv romancell
I agree with you JD. Right now the R&B music is a lot like hip hop. I agree with what someone said above. They want a song that’s gonna bump in the club so they turn to do what the hip hop heads are doing. Which is so not cool. I want to hear some “Let me love you down”, “Tender Roni”, “Every Little Step”, “If it Isn’t love”, “Cry for You”, and “Promise”. Not no “Beat, Beat”, and whatever else some of the artist are coming out with today. That’s why Johnny Sinatra (Johnta), and The Lite (Usher) need to come and save the day. There are artist out there that still have good R&B music, but they just don’t get the recognition like the other artist. Like Raheem Devaughn, 00711(Trey Songz), The Lite (Usher), Ryan Leslie, John Legend, and NEYO just to name a few. I think that Diddy is trying to take Day 26 in the right direction, and I think they will be successful because of it. Good music will come back to us one day.
I blame it on the industry (not the alcohol) lol…but in all actuality theres a cookie cutter effect in the industry now to the point that its not about talent. Its like R&B acts have to have that tripple threat and if they dont their music wont get played…Now with the content of the music, I feel that goes deeper than this conversation. That kinda correlates to something far to left like why kids fight and their parents back them up. Parents arent being parents, neighborhoods arent raising kids, its weird. But I think all that kinda stuff eventually trinkles into music and the bullshit we hear.
_PHX_
well im reading what everyones saying and i feel the same way about it-where is the real r&b only difference is im a artist and i do r&b but when i do it, it actually sounds like real soul and has a message behind it, im not trying to front for anyone, or portray a fake image and make music just so you can dance, i make music so that when you listen to it, you look over at that one you love and tell them how much you love them and kiss them right there on the spot,all music i write is based on real life situations, but every good artist has to sometimes fabricate the lyrics to touch the hearts of listening artist, its not all about sex, can we just lay here and hold each other.thats what im about.
@ Tagore57: Maxwell is putting out 3 albums for the next three years and I think he is going on tour. He’s still around.
Here is his myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/maxwell
http://www.musze.com/
Jermaine, I think the biggest misconception artists and labels today are making is to think that all the public want is street records with electric shit flying around, and when the public doesn’t support that kind of music the labels are so quick to blame it on downloads e.t.c.
Look, I was listening to Usher’s “Burn”, “You Got It Bad” & “Confessions” the other day it struck me how “simple” those records are.
They are just straight to the point, they are not trying to be something they’re not.
It’s like you guys used 5-7 instruments on each track, and that’s enough, it leaves space for Usher to get the message across without electric shit flying around and disturbing the harmony.
What I want to say is that it doesn’t matter if you today drop a record that sounds like it’s 10 years old, the importance of a GREAT track weights more than it must sound “current”. (Loudness war is killing that shit also Jermaine)
Artists today are afraid of being themselves, so they try to be product, not a person with a soul.
R&B is a main ingredient to our culture. It has it’s own language and image. It can touch your mind and soul. It explains things when a person can’t think of the words to say. I am a YouTube junckie and was going back to Guy, Jodeci, and Keith Sweat, did it bring back memories for me. When R&B speaks to me it can make me happy, soothe my pain, make me want to be in love, or even put me in the mood!! Music that use to make a woman feel good to be loved by a man and a man by a woman. We have artist out here that we as the R&B community need to hold on to and embrace. We also need producers that want to continue to bring us this kind of music…point taken B. Cox has a song called “All I want is you” that I found on YouTube that I can’t stop playing! R&B is here but everyone just want embrace it!!! I am still holding on!!!!
I co-sign. I’ve been saying this for days, to people, around this blog, etc etc.
Seriously. Anything to make that quick paper I guess.
Remember Sweet Lady by Tyrese, or Angel of Mine by Brandy… All those songs you listed! Jagged EDGE: They can really speak the truth about a lot of relationships through a song, that people who go through can’t put on paper…, Genuwine: I think he can back, but no one really checked for his song, omg. I agree though JD!!!
Even Johnta’s stuff sounds more r&b than anything out there. Ne-Yo, he brought some r&b to the table, but most of his stuff is mixed with pop, but atlease he wears a suit to perform and doesn’t have pants hanging off his assssssssss.
R&B has changed for the worse. When willl it ever come back?
Also, have you guys heard Craig David”s version of Nice And Slow?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNmJLFwt-28
Listen to it.
People do not sing with the same passion anymore, with all the affects, and just straight passion for music. It’s all money. But atlease Craig David is still real.
Record labels definately pimp some of these artist. If this new wave of r&b was never introduced, and we were forced to love baby making REAL music, then we wouldn’t have to rely on auto tune and pop/rnb, rock/rnb, rap/rnb.
But people this generation 2000s and up dont know what REAL r&b is, whatever the definition for real music is anyway..
And another thought, people don’t even sing passionate LIVE anymore during promotion. It’s more like a JOB to them, something they do for the money, and that kinda stuff really doesn’t draw an audience..
Take a look at some of the performances from back then. And seriously, Craig David kills it liveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Go YOUTUBE his old stuff folks. Musiq Soulchild, man…
passionately** sorry for the spam. No one is checking for good vocals either.
PS: Maybe there needs to be a I NEED A GIRL PT 3 Feauturing allllllllllllll the old rnb artist that everyone here has mentioned. They all need to be on the same song together, make it a hit, then they need to start releasing their own stuff after their well established hit!
Maybe another Usher ft Monica Slow Jam, some Tamia OFficially Missing You, talking about this really pissess me off because I love r&b.
The biggest problem is, A&Rs, DJs, etc. tell R&B artists that in order to get a street buzz, they MUST have a song bangin’ in the clubs, and in order to get a R&B record played in Atlanta, it has to be a “party” record (it MUST have a hip hop feel to it). Trust me, I have a record label, Reign Check Ent. and we hear this ALL the time. The R&B group signed to my label is Next2U, the group has CLASSIC R&B records like “Lover’s Lane” but the DJs will only spin Next2U’s hip hop songs like “The Baddest” or “Dip It Low”—–if you listen to Next2U’s music, you’ll hear what I am talking about (myspace.com/reigncheckent) It seems as if R&B artists are in a losing battle!!!!
watch out for james fauntleroy. he is the biggest writer in the industry. he is a lyriqal beast – a MONSTER !!!!! He is the definition of doin cool R&b – Ginuwine is the shit, too. His album would be so great. and dont forgot day26 !!!! they are on a high level at moment! Okay the song u did with them is crap but their single & songs like “get away girl” & “the truth” are crazy!!
go back 2 real rnb.
Yes, I agree, you’re part of the problem, aren’t you? You have not made “real” music in years….
First I would like to thank you and the OCEANS for bringing the genuine class back of a man in a suit. I love that all of you have taken the suit and embedded your own personalities. Johnta you kill me with the gloves, JD and the Ditta’s, Usher a classic well fitted Dawn Haynes gentlemen and TY the tuxedo shirt makes you sexy and quirky. With all of that being said I wish I had a “SLOW SONG” I remember the days when the last 20 minutes the deejay would spin “Let’s Chill”, “Just Me and You”, “Cry for You”, or anything KEITH SWEAT
. I think we lost the slow song somewhere in between 91-99 we had classic songs and artists Aaliyah (RIP), XSCAPE, JODECI, RKELLY, KEITH SWEAT, MINT CONDITION, HI FIVE, Total, FAITH EVANS (classic slow song album. MJB, SILK (OMG SILK), JOE and BLACKSTREET (many more too!). I think when we ladies started getting compared to “Jeeps” and accepting “Feeling on your BOOTY” as a romance instead of invasion we started losing our way. I must admit I own R-Kelly’s records and they remind me of jr. high and high school but these songs stopped telling us “Let’s wait a while” and “funny how time flies” (Love me some JJ) take some time and really listen to the lyrics. I think the last great Rand B group of the 90′s was BLACKSTREET proof is in their debut album. JD I do hope that the Ocean’s 6 will bring back the slow jam …. Cause I’m ready to get loved not GROPPED!!!
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Love and Light,
Shawanna “JETTE” D!
(XO to Johnta and those sexy eyes
JD!
I really believe that in this age and time the general music buyers aren’t into true R&B singers. In the 90′s and before the listening audience was much different. Today it seems to be all about a gimmick. Not to knock anybody that is doing the damn thing but where is the true craft? Alot of people ask where are the true singers…they ARE out there but people aren’t looking for them. True singers aren’t getting signed cause record companies don’t know how to market them!! And when a company actually brings out a TRUE singer with good material there is NO promotion and they are barely heard from again. So my question to you JD is HOW can this be changed?
We as listeners, artists, producers etc… We are the problem and the answer. We know and trust our instincts, the issue is that radio has become a corporation owned by a certain entity in which we as listeners are force fed music that we don’t initially like but because of repetition we find ourselves giving in to temporary jingles. The change in music will come when we except that change should happen now. Right Now! Every one who commented on this page has an intimate concern about today’s music. We collectively have an oppurtunity to support true music wether R&B or Pop. Lets stop complaining and support a unified effort to save the music! Real Music!
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