THIS IS FOR THE ESTABLISHED/UP AND COMING PRODUCERS

THIS COPYRIGHT SHIT IS GETTING CRAZY
Pt. 1

If you need evidence of just how ridiculous and broken copyright law has
become, look no further than the legal squall generated by Lil Wayne¹s track
I Feel Like Dying.

Urband & Lazar Music Publishing are suing Lil Wayne for the use of an
uncleared sample from a track by Karma-Ann Swanepoel. That¹s a business
suing, not the actual creator of the track. Oh, and they want to see
financial data from the album Tha Carter III.

I Feel Like Dying isn¹t on Tha Carter III, but: a lawyer for Urband & Lazar argues that Lil Wayne promoted the album by singing that song in concert and allowing fans to download it for free on
his Web site.

So they¹re looking for a slice of money from album sales on a track that
wasn¹t even on the album.

Let¹s just take a moment or two to pull up a chair, and ponder this: Lil
Wayne uses a sample ­ uncleared, admittedly ­ on a track he gave away. So
he¹s being sued on the basis, presumably, that someone who heard the sample
might have gone on to buy the album ­ a someone who wouldn¹t have done so
otherwise.

Pt. 2
Rapper Lil Wayne is suing the producer of a song he performed that allegedly
sampled another singer¹s work without permission.

A lawsuit filed last year against Lil Wayne accuses him of copyright
infringement, saying he failed to secure permission to sample folk singer
Karma-Ann Swanepoel¹s song ³Once² on his track ³I Feel Like Dying.²

A lawsuit filed last week by the rapper¹s lawyers says Rebel Rock
Productions Inc., of Coconut Creek, Fla., produced ³I Feel Like Dying² and
was responsible for obtaining any necessary licensing agreements.

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  1. I honestly think….this copywriting part isn’t getting crazy…what looks crazy is how artist are very lazy when it comes to crossing T’s and dotting I’s. Questions aren’t even asked by artist that receive songs because some artis already feel untouchable. If and when my son is in the positon to have his music heard the 1st thing I want to do if and when someone else walks up with an idea that didn’t come from my sons brain is VERIFY>>VERIFY>>>VERIFY all information and if you missing something then let it ride!!!! As Frankie would say….haaaaalllllllaaaaaaaa

    Peace and stay blessed,
    Gee

  2. My Bad!!!!! UPDATE PEOPLE NEWS FLASH

    I should have proof read my message before sending. My words should read ……….When my son is in the position to have his music heard…..and when someone BRINGS him there music.

    OKIE DOKIE

    and yep yep I do feel better making sure I changed that energy I put out there!!!! 🙂
    Shalla Thangs,
    Gee

  3. get your beats cleared and you won’t have this problem.plain and simple.Those mixtapes were being sold to so he might even have a bigger problem.

  4. Yeah this shit sounds coo-coo loco…but I see the discrepencies from both ends…for one if Lil Wayne promoted the album by way of highlighting that particular track it’s false advertisement as well as an infringement (still confusing). This shit gets crazy when LW sues the producers…isn’t the label at fault or responsible for clearing the sample tho? If a producer creates a sampled laced track and shops it, at that point is it the responsibility of the buyer to finalize the clearance? Why sue the producer? If you knowingly bought a track that had samples, your A&R should be filtering the possible infringements. If not the label is to blame for negligence. JUST MY OPINION.

  5. you right JD

  6. Yo JD it seems to me that niggas these days need to learn how to handle business and make sure things are taken care of before releasing things. I’m suprised considering how baby is such a good “businessman” I woulda thought wayne would of learned something from him. I thought niggas woulda learned after what happened to Drama.

  7. I dnt know much about copyright so i thought it didnt matter if it was on a mixtape. But All of Waynes Mixtapes or put out for free if somebody sold it dont you think they should go after them? (thats to the person who said some shit bout the mixtape was being sold) But lawsuit against Wayne is ridiculous… the mixtape it was on if im not mistaken is the Dorought. the CD is called the Carter…. they need to try again! and wayne is being a lil bitch by deflecting the shit on the producer but thats my nigga… i fucks with him all day!! LMAO

  8. First off, any artist these days should understand copyright rules, its not hard to get a basic understanding of what you can and can’t do. If you use a sample of music as a producer or a sample of lyrics as an artist you can check google or your lawyer and get an answer in 5 minutes to determine if you need clearance or not and who to write the checks out to.

    Secondly yeah as a consumer I think copyrights are a bit ridiculous, but at the same time that’s how you JD, and all other artist get your record label paychecks (not talking about tours). So as an artist/producer how do you feel about copyrights that apply to your music? Don’t you want a check if some other artist samples your joint? If you don’t then I admire that and I say that you might be in it for the love of the music. But if you do want that check you are just handling your business and you want compensation for your hard work.

    I know that there are some artists who promote the bootlegging of their music, and there are some who are out there fighting to sue college students in dorms who download a few tracks to play on their ipod. I have been to concerts where artists have said to the crowd basically “get my music anyway you can, if you can’t afford a cd get the bootleg.” Now I know that bootlegging is not the same as sampling.. but at the same time its all under the copyright laws (and now the DMCA).

    Thirdly LiL Wayne is losing his mind, I am sure you heard his rant last year about F*ck mix tape DJ’s… but now I see that he/cash money records is trying to sue mix tape DJs for putting his tracks on mix tapes. What is that about, when Mix Tape cds are the reason for his current success…. Now I am sure there is more to the story since I am not in the loop with any parties involved, but on the surface even if Weezy did not make a dime from DJ Drama, and the other Mix Tape DJ cds we all know that those mix tapes are the reason for the success of The Carter III.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Wd5mihX60

    http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=43156

  9. “he¹s being sued on the basis, presumably, that someone who heard the sample
    might have gone on to buy the album ­ a someone who wouldn¹t have done so
    otherwise.”

    It dosen’t look like this logic would fly, he didn’t make money from selling that song. Wayne’s lawyers are smart in trying and shift the blame, fuck it., lol. But their logic isn’t too solid either, he should’ve covered his ass. Lawyers, gotta love em. He may be better off settling out of court.

  10. I think that Lil Wayne is being targeted because he on top.. Simple as that. Lil Wayne would have sold a million records in a week regardless if he promoted the song or not. That song aint even that hot. Shit was low key whack. He was bound to catch hell from all the FREE music he put out that other folks decided to sell. Bull shit.

  11. So let me get this right. You using all of them samples for the oceans mix tape and selling it on your global14 web site so now one of the sample makers not only can sue you but the rest of your oceans crew also!! All that recording and mixing for nothing, you might as well take down that for sale sign on your web site!!

    If Wayne used that sample as part of a promotion to promote his album, then the person that made the original song should get broke off. EVEN if the song is not on Waynes album.

    WHAT YOU GOING TO DO JD…ABOUT YOUR OCEANS CD!! Package it with something else and say that you were giving it away for free.!!! LOL

    SPOCK

  12. I can see the original artist/publisher/copyright owner getting paid from samples that are sold on cds or on mixed tapes that are sold, if the sample was not modified enough to create a new work…

    But on the promotional discs that are given away… that’s fuzzy, on one hand you can’t give away somebody else’s music because that is still bootlegging (if you do not modify the work enough) they can claim that you are depriving them of music sales.. (yeah right) BUt on the other hand how can you sue somebody for something they are not making money on, AND the audience would have never bought any of your work to begin with. I know that legally they have rights but realistically most of the music sampled from other genres would never be heard by the rap/hip-hop crowd if it were not sampled.

  13. I feel some of this is absolutely ridiculous. Your suing the artist for “PROMO SONGS” because it may have caused people to buy the track. Let’s be real , how is it that ONE song was the reason people went to buy the album. tracklistings always leak and when you pick up the album and realise it ain’t on there n ones buying it. How are you going to sue someone for not making money off of something. That’s some real BS, and i want to see how they are going to battle this out with Wayne. And i do not feel Wayne should be suing the producer, yes he was wrong or what he did for not making sure the sample was cleared but the track had to go through and A&R before wayne or some form of exec. who should have made sure before doing anything. Let’s smarten up on are business skills, and people need to stop getting upset over other people’s success, if i was Karma-Ann Swanepoel i would be damn happy for the free promo myself, nobody knows you lol

  14. I THINK, IF YOU USE MY SH-T ANYWAY, SHAPE, OR FORM… I SHOULD BE COMPENSATED.

  15. at the end of the day, money aside, they should have cleared the damn sample. simple as that. handle ya business and shit like this wont crop up.

  16. Presumption is not as easily proven as some would think in the court of law.
    If this whole sampling thing gets out of hand then its going to hurt more of the older sampled artist then it will current Hip Hop artist.
    With production become much more instrumental then back in the days when a loop ,some drums, a snare and a couple hi hats made classic rhythms now producers are replaying or making something similar to the music from other genres that artist like to sample.
    At the end of the day this will probably get settled real quick and quietly and for less money then the suing party would hope for.
    suing is the new hustle for 2009 so this industry has to step it up on their business practices.

  17. Real instrumental music has it easier… you don’t have to pay royalties for the most part for live bands playing a cover of a song as long as they are not reading from sheet music produced from the original track, at least that’s my basic understanding from a few years ago… its been a minute since I have really read up on music copyright laws.

  18. should’nt that be the producers concern and not waynes… and i think its fucked up he would get sued for something he’s giving away… i guess they have a point because he promoted the song… but it isnt on his album so he’s not making money off that particular single i think their hating the fact that he’s making money… so they want their cut

  19. I heard about the trouble he was having with his samples. I was like Damn when I heard him sample anita Baker’s Best Thing Yet. I knew she had her music on estate mode. But I was under the assumption that if you weren’t selling the music then they can’t sue you. But I guess they are going to find a way to get a piece. That’s why Play doesn’t want me to put anything out yet until we clear all of the samples 9th Gave me.

  20. The lawsuit will get thrown out because the court can not determine the intention of a buyer and what influence that song had on them buying the cd. If that were the case then they would have to look at all of his other cds too.

    @Spock

    The Oceans Mixtape is not going to be for sale. Its for the enjoyment of the lifers.

  21. @ Kandi – you can’t ever try to predict what the courts will rule, look at the copyright act which allows a person to be fined up to $150,000 per track that is bootlegged. So far the most I have heard of is a person being fined $3,000 per bootleg track found on their hard drive… but the whole basis of this huge fine is that each bootleg song will be shared with someone else, who will share it with someone else, and so on…. NOw if someone intends to download a bootleg song to listen to on their ipod, and not share with anyone, they can still be charged up to $150,000 per song because they are presumed to have the intent to share the files.

  22. The song was on a mixtape so how are they gonna sue for that? They tripping, but at the same time the producers should have known to get that sample cleared before Wayne released it. They probably went about the situation with the mind set that it’s only a mixtape song so they don’t need to clear it. But i’m sure Wayne broke them off for the beat so they should have took some of that paper and cleared it because Wayne is one the largest artists today so you got to have your shit together dealing with cats on that level……they asked for this one. If the beat was gonna be used by Jimmy Ray from 9th Street for his mixtape then it would be no problems. I’m not sure how clearing of samples works but if i was them i would have found out ASAP after Weezy used it because you never know what could happen with an artist that big.

    Plus…the publishing company is probably going to win because in this country you can win a lawsuit for just about anything.

  23. SPOCK, you better watch yourself because Warner Brothers is going to come after you for your uncleared cartoon samples of “Crank That Roadrunner”. SPOCK, you sound like a hater, not a Lifer.

    Yes, Jim Johnson slipped up for not clearing his samples. He has enough money from “Lollipop” and “Whatever You Like” to cover it.

  24. if u use shit then u should pay for it point blank period

    I always thought that spock was a hater n wonder why jd give him so much attention he know what hes doing and it worked Jjd give him hella attention. too wack. just wack for no reason and jd actually listens to him wtf. spock be havin him dancin taken his wack ass advice swear he know shit dont know shit old ass. spock do you know your wack bra i agree wit ar ears lol spock even got js attention with criticism from jump but cool SUPPORTERS get ignored its like you got to show ur ass for a piece of bacon lol want attention then be a mean bitch n the mix tape is free nigga learn to read TRUE LIFER???

  25. from ltlline twitter

    » @Fam0us_ent this what I’m gonna do uma pull your video and put it on LTL and let the lifers tell me if you deserve a deal 2 mins ago

    see show ur ass and get a chance lol lol lol! be nice and get ignored.

  26. @Kandi..You better check the products page above..

    @A&R Ears…Warner Brothers was the only record label that flew me in to meet with them about that record. Shout out to Naim and Orlando out at Warner. I even met with Kevin Lyes, so they know about the record and could have said something about it then. They based my numbers on the Crank That Yank song with that group that Sony signed which didn’t make any money. I think you have to sell a certain amount for it to be even worth the labels time. 60,000 might sound like a lot of units sold but do you know how much CA attorney’s cost? All of their money that they they would be trying to get would just be taken up by legal.

    Secondly hater shoes are too small for my feet. I just keep it real. If you tell me what a lifer is I bet I fit into that category. Ever body that goes to church is not going to heaven and everybody that kisses JD’s ass on the blog ain’t going to get a deal. I have been in Atlanta since 94 doing this music shit, if I was going to be put on through JD it would have happened already, I am more interested in giving him accurate information so he can make better decisions. Music is my wife and right now my bitch is struggling. It’s all about teamwork and I always considered the Lifers to be JD’s team to help him fight the rest of the industry. If my comments sound like a hater so be it, but I bet you he will think twice about the mix tape and put it out in a way insuring he doesn’t get sued. That ‘s all people want to do any way is sue. JD has Usher on a mixtape and then Usher sells another 10 million copies then what? We might get sued? Why even take the chance? There is a legal way to go around it, you just have to plan it ahead of time.

    LIFERS RICK ROSS ALBUM IS THE SHIT…I KNOW THAT NIGGA WAS A PAROLE OFFICER BUT WE GOT TO TRY TO FORGET ABOUT THAT. HIS ALBUM IS THE BEST ALBUM THAT I HAVE HEARD IN A WHILE, YALL NEED TO COP THAT… lol COP That!@#$@ LOL

    SPOCK

  27. The company is looking for money but this shows how the internet is changing the music business. With the rise of sites like Youtube and Myspace and the blogger sites and you look at the traffic these sites are getting now. Using somebody track for promotion is not a small matter anymore. How many people you think download that Wayne track!!! 500,000 – 1 million. If Nike took one of your tracks JD and had somebody do a Nike rap on it and put it up for free download for promotion. You would expect to get paid by Nike or somebody. Let’s look at it at another angle. You signed Dondria off of Youtube because she had million of views singing other people songs. Dondria built a fanbase and is still growing one by doing this on Youtube. What is that worth to So So Def? With MTV, BET, VH1 not showing as many videos today. Youtube is the new MTV. You couldn’t take Dondria on BET and have her do a cover without paying and without getting permission just like on American Idol. Dondria got millions of views on Youtube doing just that so what’s the difference. Promotion has value. When you drop Dondria album and if she moves like a large number that’s bigger than expected because of he YT fanbase. You don’t think her singing those other people songs help make that happen. You can say the same thing about Esmee Denters signed to Justin Timberlake label. That’s the argument that lawyers will make in this case. At the very minimum they will argue that are entitled to a certain amount for promotion use.

  28. SPOCK got a point JD about the mixtape. Get your shit cleared. LOL!!! Especially on those lesser known tracks because those kats have nothing to lose. On the Jay and Kayne tracks. I wouldn’t sweat that shit. With the stuff I was talking about with Youtube covers. The labels deal with Youtube on these type things now and try to get money from them directly.

    That Famous kid is a hot mess man. LOL!!! He has one decent video on his channel. From what I’ve seen on Youtube the Filipinos are the hottest singers on the site. It’s about 6 or 7 that are good enough to get a deal. Record companies have no idea what do with Asians though in the US. I never understand why more really good unsigned black artists don’t fuck with Youtube. All them niccas that didn’t Make The Band should have had their ass on Youtube as soon the show was over. LOL!!!

  29. yeah jd! you cant use ocean samples to push your so so def fitted! hahahahaha. so owners of the ocean samples can sue jd for profits he gets from his products he is selling since he been shillin the mix tape oh here! lol its all too complicated for me.

  30. yo spock sometimes its the tone of the text that people dont understand! it be different if we heard you talk not text but sometimes you sound like a dick lol. i still read yo comments tho! i’m just sayin! not hatin!

  31. @Spock

    The products page says 0.00…ITS FREE!! He been said that from the beginning! LMAOOOO

    @mrggfep

    thats clear cut stealing why WOULDNT they rule in favor of the owners of the material? lol

    Some of yall are….”special”

  32. The music business is so shady!

  33. @ bo …thanks I am going to work on my tone…
    @kandi….it’s free now because everything is not up yet..I don’t think you can purchase anything yet.

    @spockisahater…Nice name.. But I’m coming up this year. Sit back, get some popcorn and watch your boy. People always see and hear from people once they get on but how about the whole process BEFORE they get on. Most people have worked on their craft for years and years before they get any daylight. But you are right I might be wack as hell, but I see the public thinks most of the music out is wack also thus we have weak album says. And by the way, How much of JD’s material have you purchased? I bet I have more then you. People do a lot of talking but are you going to the store to show your support. I sold 5 copies of Bow Wow’s album how many did you help sell? The same way I talk to my brother is the same way I talk to JD. I think @BO is right maybe it’s because I am typing…

    SPOCK…..

    RICK ROSS ALBUM…..GO GET IT….AND ALSO SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT…..LOL

  34. this is why people shouldnt always look at these publishing deals as the answer….these companies know what the laws are and how to make problems for everyone… the creator of the track may not even control the copyright anymore due to all kind of things …..which is the biggest factor here because you know jd the one who controls the copyright is the one who makes the moves not the one who created the track….lets keep it really real…this is why songwriters should own their own shit because when you dont meet your demands of your publishing deal this kind of bullshit happens….i’m sure the creator and lil wayne would of work it out in another way and more simple….up and coming songwriters and producers really dont know that if they have to get a certain amount of songs placed in a year and they dont they lose copyright control and once you lose that its hard as hell to get it back…so then if the controller makes these types of moves it will affect them too but they cant stop it because they dont have control…this is the truth…if someone thinks i’m lying just read a publishing contract the section on control copyright compositions its clear …..truth

  35. @SPOCK – Since this the topic is Copyright, and dealing with record companies, this is an excellent example…

    Question 1. With your dealings with Warner Brothers about “Crank That Roadrunner”, who approached who? Did you seek them out or did they contact you?

    Question 2. Did you have a PREVIOUS relationship with someone at Warner Brothers before you released that song, or was it your plan to CREATE a relationship by releasing the song?

    This is good stuff Lifers! We are going to learn a few things about the business here.

  36. @A&R Ears..

    Dallas Austin was the first person to reach out to me. He was doing a show called Crank Dat.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5MHezoQipM check it out.. You can see my group and hear my song in the background. He offered us a deal for the song but my business partner is an attorney and said the deal was some BS. I wanted to still sign it because I know I’m going to have the pay the price to get in the game anyway, but he refused.

    Because of the roadrunner sample I knew I had to deal with Warner anyway. I have a close friend that is one of the top DJ’s here in Atlanta and he gets calls all the time from labels looking for songs. He told them at Warner to check it out. (So they checked my BDS, Mediabase, Myspace and Youtube numbers) you know to see any movement on the record. I paid $2500 to put the song on Digiwaxx and once all the DJ’s got it they started paying it. I got a call from Warner and 3 days later they sent 2 first class tickets and made our hotel arrangements. This happened Feb 2008.

    Niam Ali is still the A&R out there, but after they broke Lil John off who knows what their budgets are looking like for the rest of this quarter.

    THE BEST PART OF THE MEETING WAS WHEN KEVIN LYLES ASKED ME IF I KNEW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GREAT SONG AND A GREAT ARTIST!!

    SPOCK

  37. More money, more problems..

    but Wayne has a point though.. he pays someone to produce a track, they deliver it.. they should make sure all that shit is cleared.

    If he had the proper people in place, the producer would have to sign a release stating that they’ve cleared all samples for it to be accepted or used by Lil Wayne.

    Too bad.. looks like he’s going to have to come up off a few hundred stacks.. damn!

  38. @SPOCK

    I am glad we are having this discussion.

    So to summarize, and correct if I’m wrong…

    1. The intent was do use the samples with full knowledge that you would be dealing with people at Warner through an established connection.

    2. It was not worth it for Warner to take any action for not getting it cleared first because there was no real “damage” done by the song as a result.

    3. There was still no clearance allowed / necessary and you did not pay any clearances.

    4. No deal resulted, but a relationship was established.

    Is that an accurate summary?

    A&R Ears

  39. @Spock

    Its gonna be free when its done, JD just confirmed it for me on twitter last night. twitter.com/kdizzle45

    You going into the QUESTIONABLE Lifers category! lol

  40. dearest spock you would lose that bet. jd is so cool that’s why i even posted in the first place, because you’re so critical that you could say I was being “protective” of him in my own way. seems like you be tryna attack his intelligence and like most virgos can be, he’s too nice to you…he’s already proven himself many time over ya dig? also, i don’t like popcorn.

  41. Since it’s some industry people here, can someone give me an honest opinion. Why don’t this group have a deal. I have seen them on American’s Got Talent. They won a talent contest on BET last year where they destroyed the competition. They came to Youtube last year and people are feeling them. They get meeting with record companies but nobody closes the deal. Here’s two link to their performances. The name of the group is Ahmir.

    Ahmir’s Halo Cover

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=absqiy8_deI

    Ahmir’s You Are The One – Original track – They did a YT version with a YT rapper to get more exposure.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRpgORznzE

  42. I don’t know why people are fighting about this, it up to the courts to decide who is in the right. I hope that Lil Wayne has a damn good Attorney.

  43. @A&R Ears…That’s about right. I wouldn’t say a relationship was established. They were out there trying to work, LIl Scrappy, Vic, and Mike Jones so they were kind of on edge!! LOL But you have it about right.

    @Kandi, I wasn’t on twitter so I didn’t know it was free. JD is mad at me and is ignoring me like B. Cox it’s cool. The whole industry has been ignoring me for the last 20 years, but everybody will have their day, best believe I will be ready when mine comes. He might have changed his mind about charging for the mixtape because as you can see from the purchase page there is a spot for the price, but free is good.

    Success is when Opportunity meats preparation. You can’t control when your opportunity comes but you can be prepared to take full advantage of it when it does come….YALL USE THAT FOR TODAY’S QUOTE!!

    SPOCK

  44. @Spock

    Wait you been tryin to get on for 20 years? You have a day job right?

  45. @Kandi lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. @Kandi….Ok you got me… You made me laugh!!! I started making beats at 12…..THAT’S FUNNY….Yeap I started recording on 1 inch reels even before adats came out!! It’s all good I’m sitting on over 500 tracks ready to roll.. Damn 20 years is a long time……

    Yes I do have a day job and have gone and graduated from both undergrad and grad school.. When LA took over Arista the first thing he did was go back to school. Some people learn the BUSINESS after they are in it, I just learned it BEFORE I got in it… LOL…. But you got me..

    Spock

  47. @Spock

    Ok I was just check cause I have dated my fair share of dudes makin beats, going to the studio and “waiting to get on” and I, being the “unsupportive” woman I am GOT OFF! LMAOOO

  48. @Kandi I hear that sister. Yes thank God I am blessed enough to have a job making good money. I am not a millionaire but I am at least in the top 10 percent. In this business you either are going to have relationships to get you on (JD via his father) or money to get you the relationships (Jeezy, I knew him before he changed his name, and that nigga had enough money to give away 100,000 mix tapes on the street) But this is much as a money game as it is a talent game. If you don’t have money you better get with a nigga that does..(Like R.Kelly did)

    Here you go Kandi…….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT-JHzsBVc <<<<<< SPOCKS COMMENTS FOR TODAY…APRIL 30, 2009

    SPOCK

  49. Well this discussion has been very interesting and since I have just finished a year of copyright law (which has to be the most confusing from intellectual property law), I think there is one thing that was briefly touched on by some. In general, the copyright owner has a bundle of rights by virtue of ownership. I think in the case of a song, the most important rights implicated would be the reproduction, distribution and public performance rights. Without looking at the copyright act, I do not think “offering for sale” is a requirement for infringement.

    Now of course, it has to be profitable for one to build a case and thus the publishing company is trying to attach their song to Wayne’s successful album because else there is no money in the claim. I think it is one of those situations, that as others have explained, this only becomes a case by how profitable the unlicensed sample becomes (or becomes associated with I guess in this case).

    Anyway, I like discussions like this and if any firm or label needs a young attorney, I’m available!

  50. @Ayesha….Get at me.. I’m building my team… The war starts July 1rst..

    SPOCK

  51. instrumental music is very soothing and relaxing.*`-

  52. i always listen to instrumental music whenever i want to relax.”`*

  53. instrumental music is soothing to the ear and is quite relaxing;`~

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